Who Hates Photobucket Investors Insight Venture Partners?

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target.gifThe WSJ's Peter Lattman spends several hundred words today exploring the behind-the-scenes story at Photobucket and Insight Venture Partners, the primary investor in the photo-sharing site prior to its 2007 sale to News Corp. The gist: Rather than bringing the deal to its limited partners, IVP employees invested in the deal themselves, and banked a huge return. The problem: While Peter suggests that this is murky and problematic and that it "highlights a dicey game", he can't find anyone who's actually upset about it.

That's because Photobucket deal -- $3 million for a 20% stake in a social media company with "nominal" revenue -- wasn't the kind of deal IVP's LPs signed on for. Instead, the $3 billion fund generally makes late-stage investments of about $35 million in companies that that have upwards of $25 million in sales. Peter does find one anonymous IVP investor who seems like he might be willing to complain, but then he yawns and dozes off mid-quote:

"Perhaps they should have told us about this, but it was such a small deal. Would we have wanted a piece of it in hindsight? Sure. But for every one of these successes, there are a hundred failures."

More interesting to us: The identity of the anoymous tipster who pitched the WSJ and just about every other media outlet, including us, the story. Presumably, it's not someone who actually invested with IVP -- otherwise Peter would have quoted them. So who is it? Valleywag's Owen Thomas speculates:

A spurned entrepreneur? A rival venture capitalist who lost a deal to Insight? It's useful to keep in mind that venture capitalists can make a lot of money on side deals — deals they heard about in the course of doing their day jobs. 'Twas ever thus. The person who thinks he ratted out Insight, though? He'd like you to believe that some venture capitalists are so venal and so foolish as to torpedo their entire careers over a tiny deal that happened to turn out well. Insight's opponent, whoever he is, underestimated the firm's intelligence — and some reporters' intelligence, too.



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19 Comments

Hehateme said:
A monkey could do there jobs. Give a monkey $3 billion and a dartboard. The monkey will have the same success ratio as VC's. The only reason why the article was in the WSJ is because murdoch likes screwing people.

iwritegood said:
Yeah, but could a monkey spell "their?"

pasan said:
Agree that Insight Venture Partners is very very very low on the list of vc's that one should talk to if looking for capital. I've not heard good things about these guys.

Pasan, if you're going to crack on IVP, go all the way and make it specific. What's wrong with them? Who has been complaining to you? Investors? Entrepreneurs?

hehateme said:
@iwritegood: funny.

pasan said:
Saying that a certain vc firm is undiserable is not "cracking" it's my personal choice based purely on things you hear around the industry. No one knows if these anecdotes are true or false but you do get a perception over time that affects your view.

To be more specific I cannot imagine a situation where someone invests $1.5 or $3M of personal cash without feeling pretty confident about the prospects. It's a lot of money for all but the super rich.

NY Ninja said:
Pasan, there is nothing worse than someone who strive to look like they are in the flow, and will say anything, regardless of consequence, to strive to be relevant.

You looked like an idiot with your AOL comments, and now you take a shot at Insight, mentioning you are referring to "things you hear around the industry". Well, I have worked with these guys, and they are solid citizens and helpful to their portfolio companies.

You, on the other hand, are just an embarrassment to another Italian American (me), you faccia di merda.

pasan said:
Hey NY Ninja,

No one's more in the flow than you!

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Someone in the know said:
Here is the issue with IVP Partners investing out of their pocket.

They are being paid by their limited partners to focus 100% on investing the funds capital and create returns for their LPs. As such, learning that they have spent time and resources making an early stage investment (is this the only one?), I would be very upset as an LP. Even if the time and resources spent on making this investment is minimal it smells of side-dealing and self-enrichment.

Many leading VC funds have in place structures that prevent the Partners from personal investing (thus avoiding above perception) and it sounds like IVP should do themselves a favor and follow suit.

Cheers,
SITK

PS - know IVP and they are otherwise good guys

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