Veoh Investor Michael Eisner: When Do I Get Paid?

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michaeleisner.jpgA funny but uncomfortable exchange today between Michael Eisner and Veoh founder Dmitry Shapiro. Shapiro was supposed to be interviewing Eisner at Digitas' "Newfront," a showcase of Web video for potential advertisers held in New York.

But since Eisner is an investor in Veoh, and well, because he's Michael Eisner, he felt he had the right to ask Shapiro some questions. Specifically: "You just raised a lot of money ... what is the strategy for Veoh? What in the end is going to make my investment pay off?"

Shapiro, on the spot in front of hundreds of ad execs, did his best: "It's a combination of things with the magic fairy dust of connecting video to the right viewers."

Eisner wasn't done. He also gave Shapiro grief about one of Veoh's advertisers: Apparently Veoh had attached an ad for some kind of herb guaranteed to increase penis size to "Foreign Body", an Eisner-produced show. "Hey, it was targeted," Shapiro said. "It was incorrectly targeted," Eisner shot back.

And it's not just his investment in Veoh that Eisner's worried about. He told Shapiro that the video aggregators, so adept at raising and spending money, are not handing enough back to the people who actually make the videos themselves.

"They're shooting themselves in the foot," he said. "They are trying to elicit a fee to integrate on sites like Veoh but with a revenue split that makes it impossible for a content producer to get enough money to cover production."

"If I were running one of the distribution companies I would not look to make $2.50 but encourage the content creators to make it," he said. "I'm not sure the distributors are thinking through where the content players have to come out -- instead of how to make a little money."

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hehateme said:
I think there should be a soundexchange royalty collection service for video agg services like veoh and youtube. maybe uploaders get 35% of the total ad revs theses sites get. call the new collection agency VIDEOEXCHANGE.

insider said:
holy moley - look, pigs are flying - i find myself in total agreement with michael eisner on something!

thanks mr eisner, keep speaking up!

wren said:
I wonder if Joost and HULU investors are asking the same questions?

Does Eisner really believe these platform companies are raking in the dough at the expense of content mfgrs like himself? Nope. The reason there's no money for content folks is because a)the advertising isn't there and b)it's real expensive to stream video on demand.

Mark Sigal (URL) said:
Unfortunately for Eisner, the video creators and the video aggregators, you just can't squeeze blood from a turnip, let alone ordain who should get what chunk of what margins.

Until the online video cash flow machine starts working, this is a HIGHLY theoretical debate.

Mark



I love the fact that Eisner is complaining that:
1) The video aggregator he invested in doesn't have a clear path to profitablity
2) The video aggergator's biz model is predicated on screwing companies like the video production company he also invested in.

Anton said:

Some signs of the coming shakeout:

1. Early video startups starting to crater
2. Investors getting grumpy, some doubling down (good luck!)
3. Everyone waiting for Google to figure it out but...
4. YouTube's Monetization head just quit

uh oh.

Anton

Jeff said:
Peter -

I attended this keynote and am very surprised to read this post and your commentary. Eisner spent a lot of time onstage singing Veoh's praises, and I got the sense that he was asking the founder those questions just to get a healthy exchange going - not to "complain" that there isn't a clear path to profitability.

The man just re-invested in the company...obviously he sees something there.

@Jeff, I assumed that he was indeed tossing bombs partly for the sake of tossing bombs. Hence Mike's note about him "being Michael Eisner". And thank got for that. Could have been deathly boring without it.

Roxanne Darling (URL) said:
Certainly as a major investor Mr. Eisner is in a position to (a) help discover a successful business model for the company he is mentoring and (b) condition it upon paying FMV for the content that is being produced for his company's network.

I think the saying goes something like, "Put your muscle where your money is."

(Borrowed from the socially responsible investing community, and , "Put your money where your heart is."

@ wren you made two good points, and what is still missing is the third part of the menage a trois - the viewers, who want it all for free.

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