Time To Stem The Yahoo Bleed, Jerry

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deniro.jpgHaving passed on a $35 exit bonanza by blowing the Microsoft deal, Yahoo (YHOO) now appears to have returned to its previous path of death by a thousand cuts. Specifically, the firm appears to have implemented a hiring freeze, suggesting that current business is weak, and senior executives continue to leave (Jeff Weiner being the latest).

Jerry can't do anything about the economy, but he sure as heck can do something about the executive exodus. And he has to, now, before more departures further damage his credibility.

Here's how he should do it:

Gather Yahoo's hundreds of vice presidents together and give them the Robert-DeNiro-motivates-the-troops-in-the-Untouchables speech. (Stalk around the table with a baseball bat, drone on about commitment and loyalty, and close by, um, dispatching someone).

Specifically, Jerry should deliver the following message:

  • We're going to turn this company around.
  • You're with me or you're gone
  • Everyone who isn't with me will be gone by the first of July. How? By taking the voluntary severance packages we're now offering with nice benefits (option vesting, etc.). You have one week to evaluate these packages. If you want to leave, take one. After July 1, if you quit, you won't get jack.
  • If you want to stay, we're going to load you up with stock options at the current pummeled stock price. We're also going to give you a 10% cash pay cut. That way, your interests, our shareholders' interests, and my interests will be perfectly aligned.
  • Always wanted to work for a VC firm, try a start-up, or spend more time with the kids? Take the package. Want to double-down and help me make Yahoo a great company again? Double down.

There are a lot of talented managers out there, and Yahoo needs to recruit some of them. Most of all, Yahoo needs to build a committed, long-term management team and stem the bleed. If Jerry can't even convince his senior managers that he's going to get the company headed in the right direction, how on earth is he going to convince anyone else?

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Herman said:
Excellent post.

David E said:
Henry Henry Henry,

Wow. You may want to read that Joe Nocera article in the New York Times just one more time.

JERRY YANG DOES NOT OWN YAHOO. THE SHAREHOLDERS OWN YAHOO.

Maybe if you took the name "Yahoo" out of this story you would realize this is easily one of the biggest corporate blunders in recent history.

The thing I can't understand is that your articles and this site are amazing, except on this Yahoo disaster.

I think an examination is in order that deals with the cultural dichotomy that obviously exists between employees at companies like Yahoo and Google and the stark realities that exist when these companies go public.


frustrated said:
David E is right!
Jerry needs to go!! Time to bring in a proven leader, the street has lost all respect for Jerry. The sooner the better!

David E...thanks. So point is that Yahoo just needs to dump Jerry? Certainly can make that argument. Seems he'll be there at least another month, though (and probably a lot longer)

In meantime, Jerry needs to get a handle on exodus.

BlodgetisDeadWrong (URL) said:
Henry --

You are way way way off here. With YHOO out of search, sooner or later, it becomes a really profitable media company. Its' P/E ratio is going to have to come back down to earth -- to the 15-20 range. If they do the right things, they can boost profit short term (goog, firings), but the growth piece will be harder to get to in order to justify a much higher multiple.

Therefore, the stock is going to end up behaving like an ordinary media business -- hopefully a well run media business -- which means they need to shift compensation to MUCH MUCH more cash weighted.

In other words, to keep kick ass people, deliver on the W2. Only a moron would still assume that there is significant value in the stock in the next few years. Cutting salaries is the opposite of what they need to do. He needs to:
a) just accept search is dead (ironically the MSFT offer for search business did this) and cut costs furiously here
b) cut evps, svps, vps to reflect reality of new business
c) signicantly boost cash comp across the board for those left to make competitive with other great media cos

GMAN said:
Hold on.Hold on. Jerry is not the owner but Jerry is the founder. Working for Google I am quick to read memos from Mr.Page and Mr.Brin so Jerry needs to round up everyone. When some shareholder makes memos its not as much of an impact then coming from the purple cow himself. So, Jerry my friend pull yourself together and round up the troops for a turn around!!

WhyYahooSucks said:
So I read the last post about Yahoo's PE needing to come down. Naturally, I'd like to investigate Yahoo's current PE and turn to Yahoo finance.

Low and behold, Yahoo's PE is N/A. I sure hope they're not reporting a loss.

Anyway, bookmark has been changed from Yahoo Finance to Google Finance. All their service blow.

Neek said:
This is really simple. Every single employee should take the package and leave.

With the same fools running the show (even if you totally forget the Microsoft debacle, and even if you totally forget Google even existing, and base it solely on the continuous decline during and post-Semel), how in the world is this company supposed to "be a great company" again?


Tim said:
Good post. Jerry made the decision (wrongly IMO) to say our company can offer more potential by not being taken out by MSFT, so now he needs to round up the troops and inspire them to generate that potential. If he acts like its business as usual and the whole MSFT tango was just a blip in the radar, of course people are going to bail ship.

The problem is Yahoo! has HUNDREDS of VP's.

Y! built great products when the product managers and the engineers ran the groups. There need to be cuts. The cuts need to be huge.

Y!'s great products were built by very small groups (5-10 people) that management left alone. Y!'s giant fiascos were caused by senior management trying to manage tactical product decisions.


1) talk is cheap.

2) whoever wants to leave yahoo! at time of needs is not worth keeping and sweat over.

Yahoo Employee said:
No, you see, we need more executives and managers to leave. One reason Yahoo is stagnant is because we have executives and managers who are are already rich from stock options and/or are getting rich from stock options no matter what the company does. The result is a bunch of execs and managers who have a lot to gain if they just follow orders and go with the flow and everything to lose if they rock the boat.

noblow said:
So you are giving Jerry tips on how to run his company? Frankly, who cares? HE has shown more than once that HE does not care; why should WE as readers care when HE who runs the show is unwilling/unable to see that the first executive who should leave his HE HIMSELF?

I don't see the point of this, other than selling ads around an empty/irrelevant article, or trying to stir some sentiment that a turnaround can be done. Or is it just that SAI does not know what else to write?

Speech is correct. But it should be delivered by a MSFT exec that YHOO hires as a gift from Yang as he exits stage left. Yang has been radioactive - his pick of Semel was a disaster, his return has been a joke, his response to MSFT offer was text book horrible ... YHOO has no hope w/ Yang around let alone in charge.

Justin said:
You got the points of Jerry's speech wrong with the following quote:

"That way, your interests, our shareholders' interests, and my interests will be perfectly aligned."

At no point in the entire train wreck of the past few months has Jerry shown his interests to be in line with anybody but his own. He doesn't care about shareholders and probably doesn't care much about his employees, he only cares about that his legacy that he sees Yahoo to be. The current poison pill at Yahoo isn't the severance package but Jerry himself.

Tim F. said:
I think I'd rather have my head bashed in with a baseball bat than except this ultimatum. Or was that the point?

Mike said:
And we should listen to Henry Blodget why?

Q dub (URL) said:
Jerry should probably so some rough math and figure out what % of them will stay or leave...Would be the comedy of the decade if this inspirational deal-or-no deal speech results in a mass exodus.

Mark Sigal (URL) said:
Good post, although, it reminds me of a conversation I once had with a colleague wrt to a similar company where the analog was trying to remove cancer that had spread through the body.

You keep cutting away thinking that one more cut will finally get rid of the last vestiges of the cancer. Then the patient dies.

This is the paradox in Yahoo's situation. Cancer filled patient with "great bones" (content galore, millions of account holders using multiple services, many excellent services) but is Yang the surgeon to save the patient? Is their a core management team that can articulate a vision, strategy and tactical focus?

I haven't seen it or heard it and the talent exodus speaks for itself.

Cutting for cutting sake isn't the answer. Doing nothing just lets the cancer spread. But, also recognize that in these situations the people that leave are often the best people with the greatest options.

Often, those motivated to stay are the proverbial cockroaches on the sinking ship.

I say this respectfully, because I believe that Yahoo has great bones and that Yang earnestly cares about this company.

Now that they are putting their Google-envy to rest, they sort of have to figure out what Yahoo is first, how that will drive where they focus, what skills they need, and culturally what they want to change, which will inevitably define who needs to "get off the bus."

Solve-able to be sure, but given how Yahoo has historically been organized as a bunch of politically silo'd fiefdoms, that seems to require a skillset that is not Yang's strong suit.

ValleyGrunt said:
Good Post, Henry. To me, though, it seems that Yahoo needs more an infusion of fresh blood (i.e. talent). I would not shed any tears for most of the folks who left, it is in their watch that nothing interesting happened anyway. There could be a case made for Jerry going on a shopping spree and buying a whole slew of small Web 2.0 startups with hot talent on the cheap; they have the userbase, just need the right apps to monetize it. YHOO needs more Flickrs...

joeblow said:
Funny...

http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/article/28274/Swishers-Short-List-of-Yahoo-CEOs%3A-Not-the-Answer

...but, hard as I try, I can't seem to conjur up an image of Carl bein' placated by the Google deal.

It'd be like thinkin' you have cancer and bein' placated by findin' out it was only AIDS.

joeblow said:
BTW, for all you overlording theorists, were you Yang and Yahoo, would you rather have Henry on your ass or on your payroll?... and does it appear to make any difference which?

Funny... Yahoo overloarding over Henry??... Funny.

clickbot said:
This is shaping up to be a real disaster. Even worse than Sun.

Alex Schleber (URL) said:
@Erik - couldn't agree more. I have argued previously on my blog that Yahoo had huge execution issues due to bloated hierarchies, stifling innovation and hunger.

http://businessmindhacks.com/post/post-microhoo-a-microsoft-facebook-play
(second half of the post)

Only it turns out that MSFT has many of the same problems. In fact, I would argue that for every problem that Yahoo has, MSFT's internet division has one to match or even exceed it.

Frankly I am appalled that pretty much not one of the Yahoo/Jerry bashers has even tried to disprove my basic point: That MSFT has 0 credibility when it comes to turning Yahoo around. If anything, they've done even worse, leading me to question the whole "destruction of shareholder value" argument.

For what it's worth, I have no particular love for Yahoo, and have only what you might call an average dislike of MSFT, simply as another burned user of their monopolistic, overpriced, underinnovated, unsecure-by-design products.

In that spirit, after all of the Jerry-bashing, I would actually like to see the Micro-hoo deal go through now (say at $30-31) just for the theoretical exercise of it to see if those that have warned against the deal were right. Let Ballmer prove that he could pull a rabbit out of a hat. I'd say his chances of dong that are no better than Jerry's, likely even worse.

I still think it would be an unmitigated disaster, and even the immediate/short-term stock valuations would be less than clear. If everyone that basically saw the deal as a way to cash out of Yahoo completely tried to do so all at the same time, that could spell big trouble. And of course it wouldn't be much of a vote of confidence for the deal.

And longer term I would see the Micro-hoo stock listing further or even tanking once all of the issues became apparent (a la AOL-Time Warner).

Alex Schleber (URL) said:
@Mark Sigal - great analogy.

"they sort of have to figure out what Yahoo is first, how that will drive where they focus, what skills they need, and culturally what they want to change" - couldn't agree more.

It's at it's core a branding/positioning issue, more than a technology issue. Which is BTW something that MSFT also constantly fails to understand.

In a way it's unfair to bash the MSFT internet division for its lack of success, given that they have been fighting with one arm tied behind their backs the whole time, i.e. with their "mothership" basically wishing the internet would just go away.

This is the main reason why breaking up MSFT in 2000/2001 would have been such a great idea, and likely a boon to the stockholders of the successor companies. This is also why Henry's original proposal of splitting out MSN/Live into Yahoo plus cash for, e.g. 51% control would still to this day be the much preferable route to go.

Too bad that Ballmer either never heard about this idea, or, more likely, that his/MSFT's ego made this impossible to consider dispassionately.

hmmmm said:
are you kidding? pity those who stay and those who join, imagine picking up the pieces and having to wade through the "we tried that before" auto response. It's nice to think that an inspirational rouse and a reload comp package will help sweep the seas for yahoo but at this point changes must start at the top so maybe someone will be open to doing things differently

joeblow said:
The real question in my mind is:

If Yang and Bostock could turn back the hands of time to Feb 1, 2008, would they do anything differently?

I honestly don't have any clue what the answer would be. Many of you seem to think the answer is obvious, but I don't think it is.

It would be easy to now come to the conclusion that they ought to have been more cooperative with Ballmer... until you dig back through the history of the proposal and realize that behind the scenes they were being far more cooperative than the public was aware of.

They came down from 40 to 37 before we ever knew they did, and before Ballmer agreed to a "couple more bucks." Then, when Yang heard that Ballmer was no longer locked publicly on 31 but was sending signals that probably at least 33 was possible, Yang and Filo went to the Seattle airport, and Ballmer went to Walksterville. Regardless of what Yang says about the Seattle airport negotiations, and I believe him, it was possible then to reach 33 as the b-a-s-i-s for a definitive agreement workout, if Yang would've accepted 33, that is.

It might have been impossible for Ballmer to collar and assure 33 in any combination of cash and stock, but the Seattle airport meeting wouldn't have ended it. It would've ended with follow-up meetings between their bankers and other representatives over those difficult other terms, but not in the Seattle airport.

It would've still been very hard for Ballmer to reach 33 and do it with collars and regulatory assurance. To my mind the chances of a successful definitive agreement workout, even after the basis of 33 was agreed to, was at best 50/50 and that estimate might represent pure optimism on my part.

No, were I Yang and Bostock now, after the MSFT considerations are over, there's only one thing for sure I'd do differently if ever presented with a similar situation.

I'd have been more public during the process. I'd have informed the public in some way that I'd come down to 39, 38... on to 37... and why I was frozen at 37. I'd have taken the initiative and been public about MSFT's refusal to discuss regulatory approval tactics. I'd have sent representatives earlier to general discussions of both price and other terms, and made the fact that discussions were ongoing public as well.

None of that would've removed my capacity to negotiate freely or forced me to take whatever offer Ballmer wanted to make, but it would've presented the public with a different perspective about my cooperation in trying to find middle ground and a fair deal for both parties.

As it turned out, MSFT controlled all the body language that the public observed during the entire episode, right up even to the last recent meeting about a partial deal. MSFT in every way was able to effect a public image of Yang as being entrenched and resistant to any deal with MSFT. I don't think he was, but that's the image he allowed to be created. If I could assign one major fault to Yang, that's it... he allowed his image to be crafted for him by MSFT, rather than making it himself.

I lost money on Yahoo calls and leap calls, but I still can't blame Yang and Bostock. In fact, I only blame myself for getting suckered by Ballmer's outward projections of his determination to have Yahoo no matter what it took. Ultimately that publicly expressed determination is likely to be Yang and Bostock's best defense... because Ballmer fooled many, far and wide. Even taking just all our public discussions on SAI, it wouldn't be hard to make the case that Ballmer would probably swing for at least 34-35. It just wasn't going to happen because Ballmer was probably already in Walksterville before he went to meet Yang and Filo.

Need I list all the Bigs for you that Ballmer fooled?... No, you know all the names by now as well as I do. Ballmer fire-bombed all the Bigs just like he fire-bombed me, j-o-e-b-l-o-w.

The only way I could ever place blame on Yang and Bostock is if I knew they would have taken 33 in some fully assured value, because I think that was the tops that Ballmer was ready to try to put together.

I think I can safely assume they would not have taken 31, but if they had been willing to take 33, then Yang and Bostock were simply not cooperative enough with Ballmer to get past his reluctance to define and collar 33.

If they'd have ONLY accepted 34 or higher, then I just have to realize that my own assessment of Ballmer's intentions is what cost me my money... not Yang or Bostock.

Neek said:
@joeblow-- so now it's Ballmer's fault?

LOL

Robert (URL) said:
Actually the speech should go like this:

Jerry: We've had an offer from Microsoft...

Yahoo!: Wow, that was unexpected!

Jerry: Yes... and we've sold!

Yahoo!: Yay! we get to take the money and run!

Eric Barthels (URL) said:
Take the money and run across the street to MSN, google and aCerno.


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