Jerry Strikes Back, Part 2: Yahoo-AOL May Announce Merger Next Week*

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Picture 28.pngThe WSJ confirms that a Yahoo-AOL deal may be imminent. Earlier, Rafat Ali at PaidContent had speculated that the Yahoo-Google search partnership could pave the way for a Yahoo-AOL merger announcement, perhaps as early as next week. (YHOO) (TWX)

And now Microsoft is talking with News Corp about combining forces on a joint-bid for Yahoo, with the aim of merging MySpace, Yahoo, and MSN (NYT).

microsoft-yahoo-click.jpgAll this news, of course, follows closely on the heels of Yahoo's first brilliant counter-move, which was to announce a test of a search partnership with Google.

Per the WSJ, here are the AOL-Yahoo details:

The possible Yahoo-AOL tie-up is part of a threefold plan by Yahoo to present shareholders with an alternative to Microsoft's unsolicited offer. Yahoo would also propose repurchasing billions of dollars of its own shares and is negotiating with Google Inc. about an advertising tie-up. On Wednesday, Yahoo announced a short-term test under which it will carry search advertising from Google.

Under the terms being discussed, Time Warner would fold its AOL unit into Yahoo and make a cash investment in return for about 20% of the combined entity, the people said. The deal, which wouldn't include AOL's dial-up access business, would value AOL at about $10 billion. As part of the deal, Yahoo would use the Time Warner cash and additional funds to buy back several billion dollars worth of its own stock at a price somewhere in the middle of the range between $30 and $40 a share, the people said. Any deal would be taken to Yahoo shareholders for approval, the people said.

As we've argued in the past, combining Yahoo- and AOL's assets makes sense (see below). Until recently, Time Warner's interest in a cash sale made the deal seem impossible, but recent speculation has been that Time Warner is now willing to swap AOL for equity in Yahoo.

A Google-Yahoo search partnership alone would not likely persuade Yahoo shareholders to forgo the Microsoft (MSFT) offer, but, as Rafat suggests, it is conceivable (conceivable) that a very well presented Yahoo-AOL merger combined with a Yahoo-Google search partnership might persuade shareholders to give the combo a chance for a while. At least until Microsoft comes back with a much sweeter bid (or a much lower one, if the deal bombs).

Also, AOL has no future as a standalone company, so it might as well merge with Yahoo or Microsoft now rather than later, in whole or in part. And there's certainly no reason for Time Warner to hang onto it. (AOL is one private nightmare that Jeff Bewkes would dearly love to end).

The big advantage of an AOL-Yahoo deal would be that it could happen relatively fast. (Though Microsoft would likely scream bloody murder and go rushing to the regulators). To make the deal successful, Yahoo's management would have to be absolutely ruthless about cutting costs and eliminating redundancy, bureaucracy, etc, and ruthlessness is not their strong suit.

But no matter what happens, after three years of feckless deterioration and two months of what seemed like bumbling post-bid denial, two big, aggressive moves from Yahoo in the space of a week would be a strong step toward redemption. If nothing else, Founder and CEO Jerry Yang would go down swinging.

Earlier: Brilliant Yahoo-Google Counter-Move Bolsters Demand for Higher Price

WHY YAHOO-AOL WOULD BE A SMART COMBINATION

As we argued several months before the Microsoft bid, a Yahoo-AOL combination would make sense for all parties--Yahoo, AOL, and Time Warner:

The combination would bolster Yahoo's domestic market position, especially in ad networks and display advertising. Yahoo and AOL have almost the same strategy with regard to owned-and-operated properties and third-party ad networks. By combining forces with AOL's Advertising.com, Tacoda, et al, Yahoo would dominate the third-party network business. It would also have far stronger owned-and-operated properties than AOL ever will as a standalone. The combination would allow the company to more effectively become a "must-buy" for advertisers, as well as a desperately desired alternative to Google.

The combined company would have a stronger share of search queries (which now might all be monetized by Google). Yahoo's search share has been declining, as has AOL's. It's true that tying two bricks together won't make them float, but neither will keeping them separate. More share is good, especially with search algorithm efficiency heavily dependent on volume. Google can make the search hay as long as it lasts, and the combined Yahoo-AOL can focus on display.

AOL's stand-alone brands--TMZ, Mapquest, Truveo, etc.--would fit will within the Yahoo empire and could be further leveraged though Yahoo's global distribution platform. .

AOL's AIM, ICQ, and Yahoo Messenger could all be standardized and made interoperable
. This combination would make Yahoo by far the most powerful online communications platform, an area where Google is still weak.

Yahoo could replace AOL's ghastly email system with Yahoo Mail, bolstering Yahoo Mail's competitive position. This would save money and customers.

Yahoo could cut a lot of redundant cost
(technology, data centers, distribution), which would make the AOL business far more profitable than it is today. The WSJ speaks of $1 billion in synergy. This could make the deal less expensive.

Yahoo could cut long-term distribution agreements with other Time Warner content properties, which would benefit both sides.

Economics

We estimate that AOL is worth about $10-$12 billion. Yahoo currently has about a $40 billion market cap (thanks to the Microsoft bid). Please see this online spreadsheet for details



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clickbot said:
The folks at google must be laughing their a**es off :)

Henry Blodget said:
And Yahoo! Just great stuff

barry hussein o. said:
This smells like a tactic to get M$FT to raise their bid.

Henry Blodget said:
Maybe so, but the one-two-three punch is a good one. As a shareholder, in lieu of a significant increase in Microsoft's bid, I'd have to seriously consider it.

barry hussein o. said:
Agreed, damn good.

AboutTime said:
Well, its about time. YHOO has finally swallowed the fact that they are no longer going to live solo and now all hands are on deck with one real goal----to get the value of the firm higher. So as a shareholder (and options holder) this is great news. Either MSFT coughs up more cash of YHOO buys back shares in the mid 30's. Either way I win.

Henry---isnt the arb play here to big to ignore? Doesnt YHOO have to gap higher tomorrow on speculation alone?

Big Papi said:
I am a short timer at AOL, only been there about 16 months. Given what my job is at AOL, I will most likely be one of the "redundancies" eliminated. But, in the long run, for many AOLers, it might be a good thing. So many people are just walking around in a daze, wondering what our strategy is (if there really is one), and honestly, outside of Platform A, nobody can really explain WHAT Platform A is and what all the various companies do (TACODA, Goowy, Ad.com, Quigo, etc.). People are just waiting for the shoe to drop.

Sounds like that shoe is about to be dropped!

Henry Blodget said:
Now that Microsoft is in talks with News Corp about a joint bid for Yahoo (see next story), I'd say yes, Yahoo stock going up!

Andrew Feinberg (URL) said:
This is like the old pro wrestling villains turning into good guys and fighting the newer, meaner bad guy...

YouGotYanged said:
Just when one thought Yahoo was being stolen by softies, yahooligans come in do the stealing. So, does Ballmer release his bearhug of Yang and jack up AOL or all of Time Warner with some partners?

This is getting interesting and of course the big winner is Google, who has to be salivating as its' 3 key competitors go bed hopping and backstabbing.

$10 Billion valuation for AOL after they spent $900 million on Bebo, $300 million on Tacoda, $100 million on Buy@ and a few hundred million on other assets that are waiting for their goodwill markdown sales.

Definitely has all the marks of Time Warner's brilliant management's mantra buy bubblish assets - sell desperately during downturn.

Gordon said:
AS A LONG SUFFERING TWX SHAREHOLDER, PLEASE LORD ALMIGHTY LET THIS HAPPEN. PLEASE LORD LET TWX RID ITSELF OF THE ALBATROSS KNOWN AS AOL. THANK YOU LORD.

Gordon said:
p.s. AOL can sell the dial up to Goldstein at NET ZERO. shit, give it away at this point!!!!!

Henry Blodget said:
Let us pray.

CuriousGeorge said:
What exactly does TWX have left after they get rid AOL? Aside from a constant excuse for a weak stock!

Steven (URL) said:
AOL's email seems pretty strong now when I log into it. I use thunderbird anyhow. It would be a hard sell getting me to drop my aol mail for Yahoo mail. I'm not even sure Yahoo has imap support like google and aol do. There is nothing ghastly about aol's email.

Gordon said:
TWX
1. tv networks/movies
2. cable
3. publishing
4. AOL


bobthegreat said:
two drunks leaning on each other!!! This is hilarious and sad. Can you just imagine the integration of AOL and Yahoo!!??

Ballmer should just go ahead with the hostile tender offer. If he loses and AOL and Yahoo merge, he can buy both in a couple of years for about the same price he is offering today.

timmy said:
this is getting silly now. why doesn't microsoft just buy facebook for $20 billion and let Yahoo self destruct?



Eden said:
Henry, You wrote a while back about the $3 billion Severance Plans that Yahoo set up to block MSFT. What do you think of that? Does that just destroy shareholder value? Is there any prospect of the board eliminating those plans as part of opening an auction process?

LTC said:
Hah! Notice that Microsoft hasn't said a word since the last bid. Yahoo isn't worth nearly what MS offerd to pay, it looks to me that MS is just going to sit back and watch what unfolds. Maybe in a year or two when AOL-Yahoo flounder (which they will) MS will swoop in for the low bid. By that time any remaining shareholders will be begging for a takeover.

Gordon said:
well, TWX is down 35% from its 52-week high of $22 (vs. $14.43). i have a long way go to get back to my cost basis of $38. many years ago i put $30k into this pig and now have only $11,500. disgraceful. what was i thinking? why didn't i sell at $92?

parsons fiddled for years while TWX burned, cashing in millions while the stock faltered. luckily, this "investment" is only a very small part of my largely indexed portfolio. regardless, i want some action and some movement!!!!

Mike B said:
How ironic would this be? The merger of Time Warner/AOL marked the end of the dotcom bubble, and Yahoo/AOL merger could mark the end of bubble 2.0.

LeoBe said:
A Yahoo AOL deal seems like a perfect fit and should have been done years ago. They were there in the beginning and the name appeal-I mean, I'd say 80% or more of people use either yahoo or AOL email. This is gigantic. Crosstalk would be cool and a huge boon for advertisers. In the end, this definitely shows Microsoft better up the value of its bid or else eat Yahoo's dust.

John said:
My first thought was why does Yahoo! want to slum with AOL? Yahoo! would be better off if they abandoned their hatred of Microsoft and agreed to a buy rather than partner with AOL.

Bjorn Tipling (URL) said:
Hah, I love this drama. You guys do a nice job covering it. :)

Gordon said:
a funny inside story about jerry yang - my buddy was in the PhD program with jerry's younger brother at stanford. this was shortly before the time that yahoo was set to go public. yang's younger brother went to go buy a jeep and had jerry co-sign for the loan. the loan was rejected! true story.

Anton said:
I'm beginning to suspect that these companies are all conspiring to generate page views acros the tech blogosphere.

Henry, is there any truth to the rumor that Bernake offered to "bailout" Yahoo? Please advise.

Jow Blow said:
Maybe we can have the brilliant Kevin Ryan run the combined company and drive them all into the ground like he did DoubleClick.

sudheer said:
Given all the breaking news today, a near $40 bid for YHOO does not look all that far fetched now! Fingers crossed...Show me da money!

Jason said:
I'm a current AOL-er. My department is about to get decimated by layoffs. They've screwed things up so badly here in the past few weeks, I'd be surprised if there's anybody left at all in a month who knows AOL's ad business. I suppose if this merger goes through, they won't NEED to have anybody left.

Please save us, Yahoo. Stabilize our company, at long last. Ha ha. Ahem.

I bet AOL has been planning this all along. Makes sense, in light of the Bebo deal. Beef up your portfolio, slash headcount, and boom, strike a deal.

And I agree with Steven - AOL's Email system is just fine. It used to be total crap, but they actually did a pretty good job overhauling it. I prefer it to Yahoo email, and it's certainly superior to Hotmail. Henry, perhaps you're still accessing your AOL email from an old version of the AOL Client? Time to upgrade, buddy.

SmokingJoe said:
Before anyone gets excited, remember that that the TWX-AOL merger took months to pass government approval. Then they could not even use the cable network to distribute the AOL "product" (thus the failing broadband business). And then remember more recently XM-Sirius. So even if this get shareholder approval, there will be months of wasted red tape through the government process. That is a long time in "internet years" and so many different scenarios can occur. So this is like getting a prom date with the hottest cheerleader in your class but having to wait all night to finally make out with her in your father's car.

Gordon said:
kevin ryan looks pretty smart to me. he went to yale, co-founded DC, sold it for a billion, and cashed out with multi-millions at a young age and will never have to work another day in his life. what have you done, sir?

Ken said:
I agree with Henry. This is brilliant. On the surface, two dying companies getting together doesn't make much sense.

But, I believe I read somewhere that display advertising growth is supposed to outpace search ads over the next several years. Outsource search ads to Google, build scale in search via volume to improve Yahoo's core search offering, Yahoo owns display with significant reach gained via AOL web properties and TWX holdings.

For shareholders who are short on Yahoo! stock, the cash infusion allowing Yahoo! to buy back shares at $35+ forces Microsoft's hand. Either way, Yahoo! shareholders will come out of this happy.

Corporate War is next week! said:
The biggest and scariest drama since the rise of Apple, IBM, and microsoft.


Billionaire Corporate War is coming next week. This good for startups. We don't have work too hard ourselves. One is going to be next NETSCAPE!!!! LOL.



Technical Yahoo said:
As a Yahoo employee, I am sickened by all this nonsense. None of us wants to give up ads (and search) to Google, none of us wants to be a part of a shitty merger with AOL or Myspace. If those are the options, we would rather be a part of Microsoft and at least try to compete against Google. All this desperate tactics has shaken the confidence of the employees in management to a critical level. What a terrible mistake this all is.

technical yahoo II said:
I'm in the same camp as the Technical Yahoo! The unproven, unaccomplished management is more concerned w/saving their cushy jobs rather than doing what's best for the firm to compete in the marketplace. Many have not held a position of authority at a major company & never will outside of Yahoo! No matter what happens, watch the worker bees take the hit as incompetence and nepotism prevail.

Let's face it - add up the billions spent on acquisitions/systems over the last couple years. A merger of any sort screams "we cannot execute" & needs to be acknowledged. Clean out the top few layers and get some fresh blood in this place.

Heck, look at AMP! How many publishers are on board? A bunch of newspapers - wow, Yahoo will power the newspaper ecosystem! That's game changing?? Oh, and the majority have formed another ad network in quadrantOne; such confidence from our partners eager to get off the DoubleClick juice - ha!

Knowing what you don't know is half the battle and Y! isn't even close to consciousness...

Noah said:
From a Yahoo! shareholders point of view lets pray that the Yahoo!-AOL merger goes through... Hats off to Mr Yang for looking for alternatives & from my point of view a Yahoo AOL merger makes more sense & im looking forward to the futuree !

Keith said:
It seems that Yahoo is digging its own grave. Why would anyone want to partner with AOL? This is just stupid and Yang is doing this out of spite. I like the Yahoo and use it everyday will stop if this stupid merger goes through, I hate AOl.

Keith said:
It seems that Yahoo is digging its own grave. Why would anyone want to partner with AOL? This is just stupid and Yang is doing this out of spite. I like the Yahoo and use it everyday will stop if this stupid merger goes through, I hate AOl.

danny said:
$1 Billion in synergy? Deja vu all over again. Sorry, but your rationale reads like a press release.

The only part of this deal that makes sense for Y! is the cash to do a stock buy-back and remain independent. The integration talk is pure noise, and frankly is a cost attached to the transaction.

As a loyal fan of Time Warner, I would love to see this go through. The motivation for TW is clear and worthwhile. Anyways, a world with an independent Y! would be a more interesting one to live in...

Henry said:
Yahoo is digging a long-term grave for Yang's short-term ego trip. Microsoft should just let Yahoo/AOL commit self-destruct and pick up the pieces in 2 years.

Steve Bell (URL) said:
i'm with technical Yahoo!, Keith, and Henry on this -- the idea of merging AOL & YHOO is just DUMB, DUMBER, DUMBERER. It exposes the sheer desperation and a startling lack of creativity on YHOO's part. They must be getting TERRIBLE M&A advice; is this really the best they can do for negotiating ploys? I could do better with a class of Kindergartners!! At least News Corp teaming with MSFT makes sense, but why would MSFT need to share the deal? I think MSFT does not raise the bid, maybe pulls it. At least these inane moves make it a good one to get the popcorn out on. -steve

Hal D said:
So would the name for the new company be "AOLWHO?"???

hmmm said:
I like this name better

AHOL

Tim said:
The real winner in all of this? Henry...the site hits here must be through the roof haha

HoubaHouba (URL) said:
Technical Yahoos: if you're already used to nepotistic management by people with limited experience who prefer to feather their own nests, then this merger's perfect!

While this merger might look interesting from the point of view of individual businesses, competencies and customer bases it fails in my mind for lack of leadership on either side capable of pulling the company's nose up.

doodol said:
lolzzz!

Todd said:
I'd rather keep AOL alive and kicking as an independent entity for as long as possible. It provides another exit path for startups. Consolidation of the large media players reduces the number of cash out opportunities for small players.

Jeff Edwards (URL) said:
Should be interesting to see how it all plays out. I don't know anyone who uses/visits AOL these days.

Gordon said:
lots of people still use aol email and the aol portal - even if they don't use dial up. the dial up business is contracting, but still big. they should sell dial up to goldstein at net zero asap. aol's advertising division is worth a lot too. i like this aol-yhoo idea.

FM said:
This can only end badly for YHOO. AOL,boat anchor and now YHOO are one. Yang should be put out to pasture and hopefully MSFT is alert enough to run not walk away.

RedDog said:
There is a great paired trade here: Long GOOG and short IAC. The rich get richer (in terms of search share) and the poor/ASK get poorer (market consolidation uniformly punishes player 3,4, and 5)

There is only one clear winner: Google. Jerry's desperate move to put his #2 position in algorithmic search at risk is so tactical, it's scary. One guarantee: the already-hurt YHOO search team will continue to attrit to Google, Facebook, and startups - something that YHOO won't easily recover from.

MSFT's view on search is simple: Day 1 of approval, they will swap out Yahoo's engine for Live.com - they are amazingly confident about their plan of record and recent progress. Yahoo just becomes an immediate facade to MSFT search and ad infrastructure.

I expect GOOG to trade up 5% over the next week.

lol aol said:
aol is like a sloppy drunk trying to hookup with anybody left at the bar. probably won't happen but who knows? maybe somebody is desperate...

as for the aol toadies .... i hope you didn't sign any long term leases in NYC. so long suckers!

ten little indians said:
bye bye, miss american pie

In-House (URL) said:
For those who still work at AOL, it would be such a funny feeling to actually become part of the arch rival after trying to overtake its place for all these time.

LMAO said:
You guys are killing me!!! This is so funny!!!

Some of my favorite comments (not in any order):

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lol aol said:
Apr. 10, 10:52 AM
aol is like a sloppy drunk trying to hookup with anybody left at the bar. probably won't happen but who knows? maybe somebody is desperate...

as for the aol toadies .... i hope you didn't sign any long term leases in NYC. so long suckers!
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Hal D said:
Apr. 10, 7:01 AM
So would the name for the new company be "AOLWHO?"???

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hmmm said:
Apr. 10, 7:52 AM
I like this name better

AHOL
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technical yahoo II said:
"No matter what happens, watch the worker bees take the hit as incompetence and nepotism prevail."
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HoubaHouba said:
Apr. 10, 8:10 AM
Technical Yahoos: if you're already used to nepotistic management by people with limited experience who prefer to feather their own nests, then this merger's perfect!
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Gordon said:
Apr. 09, 10:08 PM
AS A LONG SUFFERING TWX SHAREHOLDER, PLEASE LORD ALMIGHTY LET THIS HAPPEN. PLEASE LORD LET TWX RID ITSELF OF THE ALBATROSS KNOWN AS AOL. THANK YOU LORD.
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Henry Blodget said:
Apr. 09, 10:11 PM
Let us pray.
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LMAO said:
You guys are killing me!!! This is so funny!!!

Some of my favorite comments (not in any order):

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lol aol said:
Apr. 10, 10:52 AM
aol is like a sloppy drunk trying to hookup with anybody left at the bar. probably won't happen but who knows? maybe somebody is desperate...

as for the aol toadies .... i hope you didn't sign any long term leases in NYC. so long suckers!
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Hal D said:
Apr. 10, 7:01 AM
So would the name for the new company be "AOLWHO?"???

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hmmm said:
Apr. 10, 7:52 AM
I like this name better

AHOL
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technical yahoo II said:
"No matter what happens, watch the worker bees take the hit as incompetence and nepotism prevail."
---------------------------

HoubaHouba said:
Apr. 10, 8:10 AM
Technical Yahoos: if you're already used to nepotistic management by people with limited experience who prefer to feather their own nests, then this merger's perfect!
---------------------------

Gordon said:
Apr. 09, 10:08 PM
AS A LONG SUFFERING TWX SHAREHOLDER, PLEASE LORD ALMIGHTY LET THIS HAPPEN. PLEASE LORD LET TWX RID ITSELF OF THE ALBATROSS KNOWN AS AOL. THANK YOU LORD.
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Henry Blodget said:
Apr. 09, 10:11 PM
Let us pray.
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rakesh said:
yahoo is sinking ship.... then dont have any vision and ideas

Randy falco has said few weeks back when your enemies in process of committing mistake dont interrupt them

Status Quo said:
Microsoft may wait and see for AOL-YHOO merger then buy the whole when they have problems as AOL-TWX have suffered.
During this time, Microsoft should buy SAP to control enterprise software market and defeat Oracle.



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