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fred wilson.jpgWatching all these machinations between Microsoft, Yahoo!, Google, AOL, News Corp/MySpace, and their ilk makes me sick. They are playing around with Internet assets like they are toys. And meanwhile the services we have come to rely on like Flickr, AIM, Delicious, Yahoo Groups, FeedBurner, etc are an afterthought.

The Internet is decomposing into a vast array of micro-services that we, the end user, stitch together to make our own unique web experience. It is the de-portalization of the Internet and it is very real. And yet, these large behemoths are trying to do their normal consolidation play on the Internet. First of all, it's not going to work. They are destroying value with all of their M&A efforts and the bigger they get, the more value they will destroy, for them and their shareholders.

But honestly I could care less about them. The only company on the list at the top of this post that I am a shareholder of is Google and I don't see them bidding for assets, just sitting on the sideline trying to figure out how to extract some value out of this game of musical chairs that their competitors are playing. But even Google is not without fault. It has bought a number of assets over the years and several of them have languished. I see them making some decisions about how to consolidate these web services inside of Google and I scratch my head. And that's Google, the best Internet company in the world.

Here's the problem. The company/web service creation process needs some kind of end game. The entrepreneurs who spend years and risking a ton need a way to get paid for that effort. And those of us who finance their efforts need to get some return on our investment. We can argue about the magnitude of the return we need and a host of other things, but the fact remains that without a path to liquidity, all the innovation that is being created by the entrepreneur/VC equation will stop happening.

The IPO market is closed and frankly hasn't really been that robust (at least for technology/web offerings) since the crash in 2000. And even when it's open, it's nuts to take any company public that cannot deliver consistent and predictable growth and earnings quarter over quarter for years. That's what the public market investors demand and they should demand that as they have no control over the companies they invest in. The public markets should be for the best companies. Apple, Google, Amazon, eBay - those are good public companies. Skype, YouTube, and the current Facebook are not.

So if you can't take a company public, how do you get out? M&A has been the primary answer in the web/tech sector for the past eight years. And it's been a great period to sell companies. We've sold three in the past couple years out of our Union Square Ventures portfolio, delicious, FeedBurner, and TACODA, to Yahoo!, Google, and AOL, respectively. Were we happy to take their money? Yes. Were we happy with the outcome? Yes. Were they good buys for their new owners? On the face of it, yes.

But if you look deeper, I wonder. Delicious grew nicely for a while under Yahoo!'s ownership but recently the user base has fallen off pretty dramatically. I double checked this chart in compete and alexa and they all show the dropoff.
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Well, what about FeedBurner? Clearly Google has done a good job with that acquisition. Well I am not sure. I don't see any integration between Adwords and FeedBurner yet. I can't buy FeedBurner inventory through Google's text ad interface. I honestly don't see any additional money flowing to me, the publisher of the feed, since the Google acquisition. There's no way to know what the rate of signup by publishers has been since the acquisition, but I wonder if it's increased much.

And TACODA? I know that TACODA had an incredible fourth quarter post the acquisition by AOL, blowing way past the numbers we were projecting in our annual budget. But in the first quarter, AOL fired Curt Viebranz, TACODA's CEO, and many of the top members of the TACODA team are now gone from AOL. Another acquisition messed up.

But who am I to complain? We got paid right? So sit down and shut up.

Except I am also a user of these services. I see what happens when a company gets purchased. The service languishes. The team leaves. It stops getting better. And often gets worse. And so even though I am happy to take the money, I am left wondering, frankly wishing, if there is a better way.

This topic came up in the comments to my Decline of the Firm post and one thing that was mentioned is Goldman Sachs's GS True market. As my friend Roger Ehrenberg (author of the awesome Information Arbitrage blog) explains on Seeking Alpha:

But now there is a new game in town, and it relates to IPOs: Goldman Sachs' (GS) GSTrUE ("GS Tradable Unregistered Equity OTC Market") program.

It turns out that there is another private liquidity market under development called Opus-5.

The idea behind both of these new emerging (and currently illiquid) markets is to provide a place for private equity investors to trade securities with each other. The companies remain private, do not have to file with the SEC, and do not trade daily like public stocks do. When an entrepreneur or investor wants liquidity on a position they own, they come to these private markets, offer their position or part of their position for sale, and a trade is made.

We don't even need liquid markets to develop to allow this to happen. We already have entrepreneurs selling pieces of their ownership in the later private rounds to VCs. And when we we decided to sell the Flatiron portfolio company Bigfoot Interactive three or four years ago, three of the top five bidders were private equity firms who wanted to buy out the VCs. We could have easily gotten as good of a return on our investment in that company by selling it to a new set of financial owners instead of a strategic buyer.

SAI contributor Fred Wilson is a partner at Union Square Ventures. He writes the influential A VC. Please comment below or on the original post.



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Henry Blodget said:
How about a private "public market" for private companies? Create a private exchange where private companies can list shares that then become freely tradable by exchange members, who will include executives, VCs, private equity shops, hedge-funds, and other smart adults who understand and accept the meaning of "high risk."

Minimal reporting requirements, minimal listing requirements, no debilitating SARBOX, no expensive "road show", etc. Just some liquidity for execs and early investors, as well as the opportunity for other players to diversify, trade, invest, etc. Maybe have just one trading day a month--or make it purely electronic and have it 24/7 365.

I'm in. Anyone else?

Henry Blodget said:
Fred, I agree so wholeheartedly with this idea that I just jumped right into comments without reading end of post. Private exchange CLEARLY a good idea...

Peter Kafka (URL) said:
Do employee stakeholders get to participate, too?

Henry Blodget said:
Why not? Certainly a need there, too. Would increase value and reduce risk of stock options, provide quick liquidity, etc.

buckybanjo said:
OK, yes, yes, and yes. However, once this was established and a fairly sizable, liquid market how long do you think it'll take for the SEC to come along knocking for regulation? It would look and be yet another quasi-public market and little investors will need rules to protect them. This is especially true if you allow employees to float their options on there. And once a scandal, lawsuit, or someone gets screwed some politco flagwaver (hey, what's Eliot Spitzer doing these days anyway) will start rattling the chains, no?

I'm not a market regulation expert but this would seem to be a conflict in that if you want it to be a big quasi-liquid fluid market its going to start looking like a public market and get gov't scruitiny esp. if "non-sophisticated" investors like employees can participate.

Thoughts?

Peter Kafka said:
As a "non-sophisticated" investor and just a mere equity-holding employee, I don't see the problem. Participation is voluntary; if you want to hang on to your existing shares and wait for the big IPO or M&A deal, free to do so. And it's not as if there's any regulator looking out for our (the down-trodden equity-holding employees) interests to begin with -- if anything the putative market helps us considerably by bring some light and transparency into a process that's pretty dark right now.

Tom said:
"...Here's the problem. The company/web service creation process needs some kind of end game. The entrepreneurs who spend years and risking a ton need a way to get paid for that effort. And those of us who finance their efforts need to get some return on our investment..."

Paraphrasing now - 'Waaaahhh...'

"the fact remains that without a path to liquidity, all the innovation that is being created by the entrepreneur/VC equation will stop happening."

Paraphrasing again- 'if we can't get paid more we're going to take our ball and go home'.

While the 2nd half of this post presents an interesting angle on creation of a more efficient market for venture -> private equity transactions, the arguments posed in the first half seem totally self-serving.

I'd present an alternative theory - the reason it is hard to create an efficient market for venture-backed startups is because 1. the deals are still highly speculative at the time the initial money wants an exit and therefore hard to value properly 2. the money coming in wants/needs the value of the original team, and providing them with a payout doesn't exactly incent them to stay.





Brett said:

As an entrepreneur, I absolutely love the model described in this post...

Fascinating as a model for not only for liquidity but for early-ish stage capitalization as well.

Also an avenue for hedge funds to move more fully into investing in both earlier-stage and private companies. Non-exchange investing of VC's and Buyouts folk today of course requires hitting higher multiples, but hedge funds live in the world of capitalizing on smaller market inefficiencies/opportunities all the time. This would also allow VC's and Buyouts people to get involved in more opportunities with different target exit multiples, and could change the way VC's allocate their pools.

Very good things for everyone in the value chain. This is something I would love to see gain traction.

Brett said:
As an entrepreneur, I absolutely love the model described in this post...

Fascinating as a model for not only for liquidity but for early-ish stage capitalization as well.

Also an avenue for hedge funds to move more fully into investing in both earlier-stage and private companies. Non-exchange investing of VC's and Buyouts folk today of course requires hitting higher multiples, but hedge funds live in the world of capitalizing on smaller market inefficiencies/opportunities all the time. This would also allow VC's and Buyouts people to get involved in more opportunities with different target exit multiples, and could change the way VC's allocate their pools.

Very good things for everyone in the value chain. This is something I would love to see gain traction.

The regulators are actually inching closer and closer to this model. The private offering and small business reform proposals put forward by the SEC's Advisory Committee on Smaller Companies envision a broader definition of exempted and qualified purchasers, and look to make it easier for smaller private companies to sell shares to an unlimited number of investors. If adopted by issuing companies, it won't be long before some entity stands up to create an "exchange" with real liquidity around those restricted securities. The missing piece is the sell side research that provides transparency into the issuers. Without some sort of published model, these will just turn into more smaller "abandoned" companies, like the thousands of smaller public companies that trade on the NASDAQ or the AMEX.

It will be very interesting to see how NYSE deals with the AMEX listings that they acquired, as most of those companies come nowhere near the listing requirements for NYSE or ARCA. This segment of the market is clearly ripe for innovation.

Kareem Kouddous said:
If the exchange is limited to web businesses then the transparency could easily come with mandated metrics tracking similar to what happens when a site joins any affiliate network. This could give potential investors detailed insight into traffic growth and quality which is ultimately what is used to drive the valuation equation of any web business.

dean wermer said:
great, another investment opportunity limited to the already wealthy (in the name of protecting the poor, stupid little folk - who still got cleaned out in the bubble)

Hashim Warren said:
why can't more companies be like Craigslist?

Henry Blodget said:
Maybe we could figure out a way to just USE craigslist. Special section where private companies and employees can list stock. Would be as reliable as everything else on there.

T Minty said:
Do entrepreneurs really want their financial partners changing so often? Is it really going to foster a healthy relationship? Does the new part owner who bought on an exchange immediately demand a meeting with management and start throwing weight around without any pre-existing relationship? I mean if the founders are cashing out and saying goodbye, that's one thing. But if they are still building the business how can they operate without knowing who their latest owner is?

The answer is to stop thinking in terms of exit strategies. Think in terms of cash flow and getting to profit. Then just keep your position if you believe in it. Selling should come with a stigma. It should smell wrong. Bill Rudin, the NY real estate scion, had a saying. Never sell anything. And he was right.

Robert Brown (URL) said:
Go to www.unifiedmarket.com.

Robert Brown (URL) said:
Go to www.unifiedmarket.com.


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