Something Important Is On The Horizon In The Music Business

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fred wilson, again.jpgHaving ceded the file based music opportunity (mp3s and drm’d file formats) to Apple (AAPL), the recorded labels are now getting hip to the much bigger opportunity: Streaming music.

Yes, it’s true that listeners will still want to own files for a few more years. There are places and devices that can’t get high bandwidth wireless Internet access, like my macbook pro which I am writing this on the plane ride home to NYC. I am listening to mp3s (no drm for me) in iTunes all the way home.

But over the next five years, the number of places and devices where you can’t get a speedy wireless connection is going to dwindle to maybe the car. And you’ve always got radio in the car, which is going to get better and better because it has to in order to survive.

Like everything that has happened in digital music, the rights holders have been once again been forced into dealing with an emerging technology. Companies like last.fm and iMeem and others have done deals over the past year with the leading rights holders to give them permission to stream pretty much any song they want to listeners over the Internet. They can do this “on-demand”, meaning you want to listen to the new Jack Johnson song, you tell your favorite web music service that and it plays. They can also stream music in various forms of smart playlists, either the tracks you have marked as your favorites, or the tracks your friends have suggested to you, or the tracks that people who like the same music as you like. Each and every service has a different take on these playlists. I happen to like last.fm and hypemachine. You may like Pandora. Someone else might like Jango. Your kid’s MySpace page might have an iMeem playlist on it.

And because of all this innovation in streaming music over the past year, the number of people actively listening to music streamed over the Internet is rising quickly. It’s becoming a mainstream activity, particularly among the younger set.

I think of these web services as the new radio stations. Everyone of my generation has had their favorite radio stations. Everyone of my kid’s generation will have their favorite web music services. There will be hundreds of them. All supported by advertising, just like traditional radio stations, and all of them licensed by rights holders (eventually), and all of them paying the rights holders a little coin every time their song is played. And because these services will be free to anyone who wants to listen, they will be very popular. Never before have you been able to decide you want to listen to something you don’t currently own and then just play it. No searching on Limewire or bittorrent, no waiting for the download, you type in the name of the song you want to play and you hit play.

These services are coming to mobile phones, probably in the next year we’ll all be listening to pandora or last.fm in the gym on our phone instead of our limited library on our iPod. That’s when this new form of listening is going to explode. And that’s when Apple is going to wish it had thought more about streaming and less about file based music. But you can’t feel too badly about Apple, because a good number of people will be listening to Pandora or last.fm on their iPhones.

Two things happened this past week that may be important to this emerging market. First, MySpace got in the game. They cut deals with most of the major labels to allow them to offer their own streaming service. It’s MySpace, and as Bob Lefsetz points out, they have their own set of challenges with technology and user experience. But music is a HUGE part of the MySpace experience and they have over 100 million people a month coming to MySpace, often for music, and that’s a much bigger audience than anyone else has for a streaming service. And they’ve been in the business of streaming for a long time, not in a particularly easy to use way, but they play a lot of music to a lot of people every day. So I think MySpace will be a meaningful player in the emerging streaming music business.

The other thing that happened is Ian Rogers left Yahoo Music, where he had been leading the charge for the past couple years and joined a small startup in LA that has some ideas about this emerging market. Ian is a super smart guy, one of the few people I’ve met in the web music business who really gets where this is all going.

What Ian knows is that the fans are the most powerful distribution points for music. He gets the power of mp3 blogging. He understands that the Hype Machine has built a terrific new age radio station by aggregating all the music that is being posted onto mp3 blogs and he understands that further enabling that kind of behavior, where the fans are the ultimate arbiters of what gets played and what gets popular, is the end game for all of this.

I don’t know much about what the company Ian joined does. And I haven’t been told about any of their plans. So this is all just conjecture on my part. But watch what they are going to do closely. I think something important may come of out that development.

Here’s what we need. We need someone to create an easy to search streamable library of all the recorded music in the world. We need to be able to grab a track and embed it on our blog. We need to be able to see how many people played it. We need others to be able to crawl these user pages with the embedded music and create algorithms based on who posted it, how often it was played, and how often it was reblogged and linked to. The services that do all of that need to be able to play the music that flows out of these social algorithms in the same way. This all has to be licensed and legal and it has to result in money flowing to the artists. If you put the music on your blog, you should have two choices. Allow the ads to be served into your music or your page or both by the service you got the music from. Or deal with the monetization yourself and pay the royalties you owe. Most people will do the former but some will do that latter.

When this platform is built and served up, a million flowers will bloom. Everyone who wants to be a radio station will be one. And it will be simple to do it. And it will be legal. And we’ll be able to listen in our homes on our home stereos, at the gym, at work, at the library, and some day in the car.

That’s the future of the music business. And we’ve made a lot of progress in the past year getting there. I am excited as a fan, a listener, a technogeek, and an investor.

SAI contributor Fred Wilson is a partner at Union Square Ventures. He writes the influential A VC. Please comment below or on the original post.



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If something can be streamed to a client, it can be captured by the client. And if it can be captured by the client, it can be duplicated, shared, and pirated.

Nothing new here...

Peter Kafka said:
MT, you're correct: Pirates (or anyone else) can capture streams, and then distributed, etc. But Fred's point is: If you offered up a anything you want, whenever you want it music streaming option, wouldn't that be great? It wouldn't stop piracy. But for many people it'd be easier than file-sharing. The trick is collecting and re-distributing revenue.

Een said:
Music companies have always understood and been comfortable with streaming - it's basically radio - they were granting these rights back in the late 1990's. They've also been comfortable with user-programmed streaming for this period, so long as the user was not self-programming. So there's nothing really new here other than some signs that users are catching up with businesses, like Spinner, Launch, Pandora etc. which were trialling models based on these principles over 6 years ago in collaboration with the music industry.

the masses (illegal p2p file-sharers) are not yet ready for streaming. not to say, there isn't a market for it, but i strongly believe that at least for the next few years, the industry must find a way to legitimize p2p downloads & monetise it. i don't think free legal streaming is enough to lure anyone away from limewire. people are still accustomed to downloads, they like to 'own' music, they want it portable, & streaming just isn't doing that now in a major scale & won't be for a while.

Mike (URL) said:
@ Peter,

I think that the point is more towards, if you offer streaming music on demand - wherever and whenever, there really isn't much incentive to pirate that music. This is especially true in the long term, once devices to play streaming music are ubiquitous.

On a side note I'm a big pandora user and I've always wondered why they don't have audio ads or more targeted banners.

With everything they know about my listening habits (HUGE Brian Adams fan) I would assume they know my demographics pretty well.

triple r said:
It only works if the economics work. What are the economics Fred?

Juan said:
I'm with Peter. I think MT is missing the point. Given time, "files" will be the thing of the past.

Peter Kafka said:
@Mike: We're agreed - it would absolutely take some of the incentive away from pirates. But not all of it. W/r/t Pandora and ads: They're really struggling to figure out how to do what you're talking about. Display ads are tough, because you don't engage with the page that often when you're streaming songs, and they're very worried that you'll bail out as soon as they start inserting audio ads.

@triple r: see above.

fred wilson (URL) said:
@triple r

our portfolio company, targetspot, which offers in stream audio advertising (think radio ads for streaming audio), believes that one or two fifteen or thirty second ads per hour will pay the licenses and also provide a return for the person who is offering the stream.

fred

a listener said:
the problem is not technology, it's the law.
the DMCA prevents anyone from offering the service you describe.

Who? said:
There's no internet in the car? Hello? Have you ever heard of EVDO? 3G? HSDPA? Mobile broadband on your cell phone, not wifi hotspots and/or some additional device, is the future of the internet and the future of music on the internet. The platforms are out there: Windows Mobile, Symbian, etc. Someone just needs to write the software and get the rights.

As a long time Rhapsody user (since October '03), it's frustrating that I can still not adequately stream music onto my Windows Mobile 3G smartphone. But I'm hopefuly that this is just months away--all we need is a server-side mobile web browser, like Skyfire, to have better audio. The technology is there (I have streamed music from Rhapsody through Skyfire), but the audio quality is not.

And I still don't understand the need to own music; I pay $160 a year for Rhapsody and I can listen to whatever I want wherever there's a computer, and I can load as many songs onto my phone as there is microsdhc memory. Buying music or waiting on some p2p to get it is just a waste of time, and money.

Finally, I'm surprised that you think Pandora will ever be allowed on an iPhone. Apple is the epitome of a closed system (yes, there's an SDK, but there are plenty of restrictions), and while someone will figure out how to get something like Pandora on their iPhone, that will only be until the next firmware upgrade.

L Sapadin said:
Here's my concern about ad-supported music streaming: won't the pressures on advertisers to garner big numbers of listeners have the same effect on streaming as it's had on traditional radio? Consolidation. Homogenization. Or is this such a different business model (listener as programmer) that the old rules don't apply?

headcoach said:
I think most of these comments are top-down instead of bottom-up. Piracy is about one thing: rebellion. Not convenience. Not access. Not control.

Piracy is a response to feeling taken advantage of and that's not something that "streaming music" will fix. The artists will still get the smallest share of the pie (pirates hate that). Labels will still collect royalties just for saying "yes, you can have it," or "no, you can't" for years to come (pirates really hate that). Labels will start double-dipping by charging pay-per-play fees to the streamers as well as take cuts of the likely to increase bandwidth fees from cable, DSL and WiMax companies (pirates are smarter than you think). And so remains the feeling of manipulation. And so remains piracy.

Imagine going to your favorite restaurant and ordering your favorite meal which usually cost $50. The waiter tells you its free if you sit in this section - a little more noisy, but manageable none the less. You agree. You enjoy your free meal and just as your leaving the waiter presents you with a check. What gives? You thought this was free! So you open up to see a receipt for $50 - itemized as: "cost of utensils! Suckered again. Same meal; same price; more noise. That's the future of "streaming" music. A step backwards at best.

Dadaman said:
Don't overlook the fact that internet radio and sat radio has to pay per play and pay per person. When, and I do mean when, the record labels send out their promos, the promos are stamped "for promotional use only." The should say "pay me to promote me." I love the the bite off the hand that feeds you approach the record labels take.


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