Google: We're Going to Crush Baidu in China. We Think.
Google (GOOG) is the undisputed champ of search just about everywhere in the world except Russia and China (anywhere else? Please let us know). In the latter, Google has surged ahead of Yahoo China and other competitors but is still getting clobbered by Baidu (BIDU), which has also been a NASDAQ moonrocket.
But getting its head handed to it in China hasn't thwarted Google's ambitions there. On the contrary, according to the WSJ, Eric Schmidt said last year that Google would be the China market leader within five years. At a conference in Boao, China, this week, the president of Google China, Kai-Fu Lee, appeared to agree with Eric--sort of.
"Certainly, we would like to aspire to be a market leader in five years," Mr. Lee said Monday on the sidelines of the Boao Forum for Asia.
Google accounted for 26% of China's Internet-search revenue in the fourth quarter, up from 17% a year earlier, according to Beijing research firm Analysys International. Market leader Baidu.com's share of the market rose to 60% from 58%.
Many Internet users in China are more familiar with Baidu, which started earlier in the country and which attracts users in significant part by facilitating easy access to free music.
"Gaining share against a well-established, supermajority competitor is a difficult proposition because there is a certain critical mass, economy of scale and word-of-mouth effect that one has to overcome," Mr. Lee said.
Google certainly would know. Still, Google's market share gains against Baidu are impressive: In the US, since Google entered the market, no one has ever gained that much share against it. In fact, since Google entered the market, almost every other player has lost share, every quarter, for years. So perhaps Eric's not hallucinating, But it would seem to be Baidu's game to lose.
The WSJ adds:
Google also is exploring investments in Chinese companies that focus on social networking and mobile Internet as part of its strategy to expand in China, a burgeoning market that analysts estimate may already exceed the U.S. in the number of Internet users.
In China, Google has invested in Tianya.cn, a social-networking Web site, and in Xunlei Network Technology Co., a provider of video and game downloads, for undisclosed amounts.




- Korea 5%
- Taiwan 18%
- China 19%
- Hong Kong 26%
- Russia 32%
- Japan 40%
Japan is first), South Korea (NHN Naver is first),
and Taiwan (Yahoo Kimo) is first. Google hasn't
penetrated beyond the Latin-alphabet world.
steadily lost market share to Baidu over the years.
Just saying "we will gain market share" isn't news.
Google China has been saying that for the last 3
years. As for the 17% to 26% increase, that has
come from the consolidation of the industry. The
26% isn't search user share, it is search revenue
(ad revenue) share.
Didn't Google invest in Baidu
Google is not Chinese and never will be even if you hire Chinese.
I would say Alibaba and QQ would have a better chance
the only way I think Google would have an advantage is in English otherwise it will never translate
funny thing is Yahoo invested in Google and now made a smarter move by investing in China through Alibaba
The user experience on Google in the long run will easily run over Baidu. If I were Baidu I would focus on China, why all the expansion into Japan? Conquer China, that's the biggest play.
If Baidu doesn't beat the street "bigtime" for Q1, i wouldn't be surprised to see BIDU back at 200. Betting against Google anywhere in the world is 'high risk'.
on a serious/weird note, though - what would it feel like if/when Google starts rolling out cool, new products in China, first?
:-O
man - i gots to practice up on my Mandarin. Practice? You talkin bout practice, man?
http://www.koreaninsight.com/?p=70
But it is getting tiring listening to Kai-fu complain about Baidu's illegal music search activities, cos if Google is so superior with their technology, why don't they simply work with the aggrieved record labels to build a case against Baidu? It's common knowledge that Baidu has blood on its hands and is currently facing a whole series of lawsuits and yet Google is not able to capitalize on the situation. Google does not even want to admit in public that they are potentially building a music service (as already reported by WSJ) to compete against Baidu, almost as if they are afraid of losing to Baidu's popular mp3 service
There is certainly a sense that Google China is running scared in both China & the US - of Baidu, of being the big American company in China, of being the American colluders with the Chinese government - caught between a rock and a hard place trying to balance both Chinese and American perceptions and expectations. So they end up with a half-assed shot at the market.
And in the process, for good measure, "do no evil" Google has a substantial investment in Xunlei, one of the top 5 facilitators of illegal music and movie downloads in China. Xunlei hides behind the search and download engine facade, but a closer examination reveals that just like Baidu, they surreptitiously host unlicensed files illegally.
So Kai-fu Lee does not even have a moral leg to stand on in his fight against Baidu. Google China can't even get their 'when in Rome' act together - if they want to get involved in illegal stuff, at least do it in order to be a leader like Baidu has done.
So my advise to Google, forget the big talk and instead seriously act like you’ve got balls of steel with the accompanying smarts and moral values.
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