Nine Inch Nails: $1.6 Million In First Week Online

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trent-reznor.jpgNine Inch Nails took 800,000 orders on the Web for its new album, "Ghosts I-IV," adding up to $1.6 million in first-week sales, Billboard reports. That includes free and paid downloads, limited edition vinyl releases, and CDs. Online sales began March 2; the CD hits stores on April 8.

How much of that $1.6 million will go to a record label? None -- Trent Reznor released the whole thing by himself.

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Arthur Freydin (URL) said:
One thing to keep in mind here when comparing to Radiohead's sales is that NIN's average order ticket was likely much higher because of limited edition kit sales.

Still, it's very encouraging to see the profit of 800,000 orders go directly to the artist.

John Wesley (URL) said:
This looks like a good model for the bands with big followings. Horrible news for the record labels.

It remains to be seen how this model could work for up and coming artists and niche groups.

insider said:
kudos and gratitude to Trent Raznor -- creative genius and big entrepreneurial cohones

but lets see. $1.6MM from 800,000 transactions = $2/transaction

Trent may behumming to himself that fab tune by Cake:

"How do you afford your rock and roll lifestyle?!?"

hmm said:
So is $2.00 the average expected take per unit in this brave new world?

Henry Blodget said:
When the cost of goods sold is essentially zero, $2 ain't half bad.

Chris said:
Remember that most artists get less than $2 per album so he's probably still ahead.

Peter Kafka said:
Actually there are some COGS here, because most of those dollars are spent on physical goods (limited edition discs, knick-knacks) and shipping. Still a huge margin, and the only person he has to share it with his is manager.

deecee said:
cost of goods is not zero. production talent, musicians, studio time...not to mention supporting the transaction (credit card processing, bank fees, etc). but, along with his $2/per transaction avg (gross) he, like radiohead, is master of his (and his work's) destiny.

Eric (URL) said:
"Still, it's very encouraging to see the profit of 800,000 orders go directly to the artist."

Which, I might add, for Trent is probably nearly 95% of the entire purchase price.




dwight said:
Does the 800,000 include free downloads? I guess it must as i don't see anything to pay for below $5. So the ticket price of actual paying transactions might be quite good -- just a lower # of "real" transactions.

This is an interesting evolution of the pricing model: give away some free and then have premium versions that folks are willing to pay for, and have it blend out to an ok number. And while the total dollars might be smaller than the old days, his net cut might be just as high.

The $5 download will have a very low COGS as it is all digital, and likely also a very popular option.

Arthur Freydin (URL) said:
@deecee
You're right - COGS is definitely not zero. Not only do we have to account for transaction fees etc, but we also have to figure that this mandated quite a few server infrastructure upgrades as well to handle the load.

I remember when In Rainbows came out by Radiohead - their server was bogged down for quite a while and they only had 1.3 million downloads TOTAL. Trent surely had to invest in beefing up the nin.com infrastructure to handle that additional load.

Even with all the COGS figured in to the equation, this is a serious win for Trent. He gets nothing but great press for this and STILL manages to make money!

Peter Kafka said:
Almost half of the $1.6M came from 2,500 "Limited edition" orders at $300 each. What's in that?

Courtesy of Bob Lefsetz:

Ghosts I-IV on 2 audio CDs.

A data DVD with the multi-tracks so you can slice and dice at home.

A Blu-Ray disc with hi-res audio.

A book of photographs.

A book of art prints.

And the right to immediately download the MP3s.

And, and this is the kicker, each package is numbered and personally signed by Trent Reznor.

dwight said:
I'm impressed the download is offered in several encoding formats and lossless too.

insider said:
all: i think we are overlooking the obvious issues.

COGS is not zero, as well noted above. But for argument's sake, lets say total COGS plus total operating expenses (but not including any costs for Mr. Raznor's own time) are $600K.

(Its got to cost at least $100-200K just to arrange and record and master the music, no?)

So Mr. Raznor clears $1.0MM.

Then the issues are:

1. How does that sum compare to what he used to make on an album (produced and distributed thru conventional means)? Is this a better or worse economic deal for the artist? (I guess WORSE.)

2. Regardless of #1, is that sum what an artist of Mr. Raznor's accomplishment and reknown can now expect (hope?) to yield from an "album" (or whatever we will now call a music artists occasional large-scale output)? (I guess Raznor is so talented and well known -- and so cutting edge and early, business-wise, that this yield will rarely be equalled.)

3. How many "albums" can an artists reasonably release and maintain that level of yield? (I guess FEW.) Freed from the grind but without the scheduling/marketing/promotional machine of a record company, will artists inevitably overproduce and saturate their markets and fade quickly? (I guess YES.)

4. Does the artist have the resources to finance the whole thing him/herself? (If not the record company swoops in as before and the model reverts to traditional artist yields.) (I guess this will happen OFTEN.)

Anybody differ?

Arthur Freydin (URL) said:
We also have to figure this into the equation: the album has only been released for 11 days. I wonder how Reznor's albums have done in the first 1-2 weeks through conventional distribution - anyone have any numbers?

Also, when calculating COGS to compare conventional vs online distribution, let's exclude expenses that would have been incurred either way such as studio time unless the record label pays for ALL of these types of expenses. Actually, in Trent Reznor's case, I believe his studio is actually in his house. Furthermore, since there are no vocals on this CD, I'm guessing that whatever he had set up in his house was sufficient for the album.

So I think we should only include expenses that are specific to online distribution or otherwise incurred because of ditching the record label.

Mitch Reisendorf (URL) said:
The cost of creating an album nowadays is very cheap especially when you don't have a label that forces you to spend top dollar on a superstar producer or independent promotions (radio payola). If you have the built in established audience base which you can now reach directly then the labels are not needed because Trent would not see a royalty check unless he sells several million albums and how many acts can do that nowadays? The most important thing is the ability to hold on to your ownership of your content and still build a viable model based on giving the buyer several options (control). The focus has to go to the new acts and how can they gain mindshare and actually make a living off of their art.

Peter Kafka said:
In addition to forcing you to spend money on producers and payola, the labels can (or did) have userful functions, too.

Who helped Trent, and Radiohead, and Prince, and the Eagles, every other established act that's going label-free get established? The labels, with their once-powerful distribution and marketing levers.

peecee said:
Don't forget that for someone like Trent Reznor, production costs are extremely low, or negligible since:
-He records and produces everything himself (already doing this for love , not money, i thnk he doesn't "bill his time" mentally when making music)
-Owns his own studio facility
-Owns his own recording equipment/hardware/instruments (which was procured with funds paid to him by a label)

Of course this is not the case for most artists.
But, the label at some point paid for equipment. I personally know two medium sized formerly "indie" rock bands who have taken label advances or recordind advances and instead purchased equipment which they will own outright, forever. Barring computer and software upgrades, they will be able to record many albums or singles with the equipment. If the label goes away, they will still ahve the equipment. Of course , there is the cost of other "people" talent - recording engineers/assistans, mixers, perhaps a producer. In the end though, a creative artist/musician values paying for these people and will eat the costs in order to make their artwork shine. I cannot see this NOT being a trend for many bands...


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