Apple Stock Falls Under $90 (AAPL)

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stevejobs.jpgAs of 12:55PM ET, Apple (AAPL) is down 8% and trading around $89, more than 50% off its high.

The stock's trailing P/E ratio is now 17X--still above the market's, but low for a stock with this wide and passionate a following and a still-solid growth story. Thanks to the iPhone's attractive cash-flow characteristics, moreover, the stock is now trading at just over 10X trailing free cash flow after factoring out the company's cash balance.

A few weeks ago, when we noted that Apple's stock had fallen 33% off its high, we suggested that, if market conditions deteriorated further, the stock could drop to $70.  It obviously still could. In the old days, 10X-15X was considered a reasonable P/E multiple for a hardware manufacturing firm, even one as sexy as this.

Apple is also obviously exposed to the global slowdown, and its earnings will likely get hammered over the next year.  Also, as illustrated by the market's temporary panic over a Steve Jobs heart attack report, the company needs a succession plan.

But that said... most of what people about Apple  when the stock was $180 still holds true. As Warren Buffett has said many times, the best time to buy stocks is when others are fearful. Apple investors, like other stock-market investors, and close to panic right now.

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18 Comments

cory Lee said:
I stopped by a few apple stores this past weekend and talked to some of the sales guys, and they say they're hitting all their targets and haven't noticed a slowdown.

$24 cash per share, healthy FCF, high return on capital, huge growing brand quality.

Apple is looking very attractive for a long term buy.



Cardiff Giant said:
Henry -

The periodic analysis of tech stocks is great, but it would be especially helpful if you had one post (or even a widget that updates real time) showing where all the major tech stocks are trading on a PE and price-to-cash flow basis. I know you can dig around and find these details elsewhere, but given SAI's focus, it seems like a natural fit.

Thanks.

Cardiff, thanks. Easy, but will take a bit to put together. I'll try to work up.

H

James Cramer Jr said:
I just bought more AAPL bro!

This is fucking great.

Im about to take out a $50,000 loan on my house and dump that shit in Apple

HG said:
end of day:
AAPL 4:00PM ET 97.70 Up 0.63 Up 0.65%

Day traders could have made a few bucks...

"...Apple is also obviously exposed to the global slowdown, and its earnings will likely get hammered over the next year."

Apple didn't miss a quoter in 5 years! Dell and Microsoft will see a slowdown since Apple is eating their lunch.


There will be a slowdown. Not clear how much.

spaceage said:
The part most people are missing on this stock is that somewhere between $1.50-$2/share in earnings for FY09 are already virtually in the bank thanks to iPhone deferred revenue accounting. That is based on an assumption of 5M iPhones per qtr, which they appear to have blown away last quarter (ie. 7-8M), plus the iPhones already sold.

If you accept that FY08 for aapl was mainly non-iPhone revenue, then that means $5/share came from mac/ipod/ITMS.

Even if they just hold flat on non-iPhone business (and remember, Mac business has been growing minimum 30%+ YOY recently thanks to excellent products and poor Vista offerings), that's a $6.50-$7 EPS for FY09...or 30% upside or more in earnings.

So, with a very wimpy and "recession-oriented" trailing PE of 15 + $20/share in cash on hand and no debt, there has to be at least 25-30% upside in the stock from here in the next 12 months. There could be a whole lot more...

low $80s is a key technical retracement level--if it reaches that level as it almost did today, this stock is a screaming buy from many vantage points.

Yes, the deferred revenue is great, but I don't think the market will pay for it when the revenue is recognized (i.e., I think it was in the stock when the iPhones were sold). Key from here will be iPhone growth in 2008-2009 and beyond.

And Mac growth, which is actually more important.

Beltway Greg said:
Out at $135 and thought I was stupid. Likely, in again much sooner than I had anticipated. Look, you've got Russian oligarchs having to deal with margin calls and hedge funds facing redemptions on a grand scale. We're making hamburger out of ground chuck but a lot of sirloin is going into the grinder too. Apple is sirloin but you've probably already figured that out. I do feel so sorry for those folks invested in POT and MOS.

Beltway Greg

Tim A said:
Can I buy Apple stock with my FDIC Credit Card?

jonathan (URL) said:
Apple is seeing a slowdown, I dont care if they hit there *10M* iphone estimate. Sentiment has been to bearish lately.

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