Ron Paul Wins Seat In ABC/Facebook GOP Debate

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Ronulans rejoice! First 10% in Iowa, and now our favorite Internet phenom-populist-libertarian-gadfly is going to get some major MSM facetime as part of the ABC News/Facebook GOP debate Saturday. ABC released the list of invited participants, and yep, Ron Paul is on it, along with Huckabee, Romney, Thompson, McCain, and the guy Paul spanked in Iowa, Rudy Giuliani (4%, ouch).

Still waiting to hear if Fox News buckles to pressure from the Paulistas and includes him in Sunday's debate, but ABC is giving their debate network primetime and Facebook is Dr. Paul's home turf, so who cares what Fox decides?

For those who care, the Dems on the docket for their own ABC/Facebook debate (also Saturday), include Hillary, Edwards, Obama, and Bill Richardson. What, no Chris Dodd, Joe Biden or Dennis Kucinich?! Where's the outrage?

We still aren't clear how ABC is going to get the Facebook nation involved in either of these debates, but one strike against them both is that they're scheduled back-to-back Saturday night -- when Facebook's under-30 demo presumably has better things to do.

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Lame insults of RP supporters, and the man himself, is really starting to embarras his detractors.

Obviously, the have no original ideas like, oh, I don't know, make the Consitution legal again? Maybe, get this, run the government responsibly and respectful of citizen rights?

Ever noticed that the insults keep coming but the support keeps growing?

Tom said:
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They haven't educated themselves on the issues and don't fundamentally understand what's going on.

People, people, people: we're loosing our civil liberties by the day, our money is dropping in value at an astonishing rate, and the US governemnt is massively corrupt.

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That's why I support Ron Paul. I'm a 45 yr. old architect and I see the mortgage crisis (enabled by Fed policies) about to destroy the housing industry.

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*Were Hillary and Edwards "crushed"?
*Was Bill Clinton "crushed" in Iowa - and New Hampshire - in 2000?
*Was Giuliani "crushed"? Three times over?
*Did McCain (once nominee apparent) escape being "crushed" by his extra 3% ?
*Is beating polls and predictions by 2 to 3 times being "crushed"?
*Is record fundraising - $100 at a time instead of $10,000 or more per - being "crushed"?

No, the fat lady has not yet begun to sing. No one thought this would be quick or easy. Your rush to the cemetery seems a bit biased. But that makes the world go round.
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>>> 3 posts is hardly "spamming," <<<

Yes, it is. Usually, Paul detractors resort to one knee-jerk post and run. You've tripled the average.

>>> I've had the misfortune of meeting a few Ronulans in the real world <<<

You found a few nutjobs out of thousands of Paul supporters? You obviously don't have a life.

>>> Yes... issues like how a commodity-based currency will solve all our economic woes <<<

Because the current fiat monetary system produced by the Fed is really working, right?

>>> and how an 18th century Jeffersonian foreign policy will bring us safety <<<

Because the current Wilsonian policy of sticking our noses into every nook and cranny of the Earth is working, right?

>>> and prosperity in a 21'st century world in which we are confronted with the challenges of globalization, jihadism, a rising China, and a newly belligerent Russia. <<<

All which have mushroomed under the current Wilsonian foreign policy I described above.

>>> Is he thinking up any other world-beaters for us as he tours the country in his blimp? <<<

FYI, the blimp has nothing to do with Paul's official campaign.

>>> Like how he plans to contain Prussian aggression in Bohemia? <<<

Until these countries are sovereign states of our Republican form of government, then the proper answer would be to tell them - that's your problem.

>>> Or how he plans to reform the USPS by bringing back the pony express? <<<

Competition would make the USPS stronger in the long run.

>>> Quick, back to the dirigible! <<<

Well, not quite for me. I have to clean the 3-day old Taco Bell and assorted anti-war paper mache from around my computer before I'm allowed to play video games and use my Mom's credit card to donate to Dr. Paul.
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Everything has a reason.

As for China, they know that the US military is under the control of a lose cannon and they are protecting themselves. Plus, they have too much money and need to somehow spend it. Did you know there's rumors that China has developed a space plane prototype? Something the US gave up on almost 20 years ago? And that's not a conspiracy. Google it. It was on Lou Dobbs last night also.

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Ron Paul's discussions of inflation and the Fed's constant economic pandering are legitimate issues. I'm not suggesting his solutions are the answer merely that they are worthy topics for discussion.

Oh and had to chuckle with this line "a newly belligerent Russia". If they're just 'belligerent', what does that make us? Bellicose? Nasty w/a side of kick-ass?
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Example: saying that it is "looney" that your elderly aunt rants about the government putting fluoride when in fact fluoride is put into tap water.

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The bottom line is that 70% of America wants an end to the war in Iraq. If you vote for Rudy, Mitt, Huck, Fred and especially McCain you are really voting for the Democrat that wins the nomination. Think about it, if the republicans run a pro war candidate we will lose to the Democrats. Ron Paul is the only chance we have for a Republican president. If we let the democrats run the show for the next four years our taxes will go up and up and the federal government will get bigger and bigger. If you don't believe that Ron is a real conservative than ask another Ron-Ron Reagan- they have similar stands on the issues.
gr said:
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David Stone said:
RE: "...being a mouth-breathing, friendless wonder living in mom's basement is that it leaves you with enough spare time to participate in pointless "Facebook Debates."

Is there no way for us to report and to have such pointless ad hominem attacks moderated? They add nothing to the debate and are annoyingly distracting.
Spinoza said:
"Who is spamming message boards with unsubstantiated stereotyping?"

3 posts is hardly "spamming," and unfortunately for you, my characterizations are neither "stereotypical" nor "unsubstantiated." I've had the misfortune of meeting a few Ronulans in the real world (yes Ronulans, a world DOES exist beyond the confines of your pizza crust-laden rooms)... its kind of like having a conversation with a crazy aunt to whom your obliged to remain polite as she tells you how she's convinced that the "govment iz puttin' fluoride in the tap water!"

"'m not a supporter of Paul's but I recognize the value he brings to this election. He is bringing up economic issues that rarely see the light of day in our tired electoral process."

Yes... issues like how a commodity-based currency will solve all our economic woes... and how an 18th century Jeffersonian foreign policy will bring us safety and prosperity in a 21'st century world in which we are confronted with the challenges of globalization, jihadism, a rising China, and a newly belligerent Russia.

Is he thinking up any other world-beaters for us as he tours the country in his blimp? Like how he plans to contain Prussian aggression in Bohemia? Or how he plans to reform the USPS by bringing back the pony express?

Quick, back to the dirigible!
KentuckyWoman said:
Well, well. This 46-year-old and her 52-year-old husband along with her 55-year-old sister-in-law will be tuning in to watch Ron Paul. Oh, and so will my 72-year-old mother.

I'm glad the younger people that support Ron Paul are so involved. It's the most wonderful thing I've seen in my lifetime. To criticize them for being active and involved in their country's future is ridiculous. Would you prefer apathy amongst our country's young?
Anton R said:
The smug name calling is intellectually lazy. If you don't agree with the policy stances then address them directly, otherwise save the rants for when you're speaking to like-minded people.

I'm not a supporter of Paul's but I recognize the value he brings to this election. He is bringing up economic issues that rarely see the light of day in our tired electoral process. His dressing down of Bernake was one of the best political moments of 07 and dead on.

Viva la difference...
JohnMatthews said:
False labels and name calling: the hallmark of the marginalization of the Ron Paul campaign.

Ron Paul is not a populist; he is an individualist who believes in personal responsibility and self-reliance.

This is another example of a pointless and inflammatory article intended solely to generate hits from Ron Paul's news hungry, click happy supporters.
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Who is spamming message boards with unsubstantiated stereotyping?
For some I guess it is easier not to think, to let your president be chosen for you.
It's clear Spinoza is against Ron Paul. But just out of curiousity- who are you voting for?
Spinoza said:
"A bunch of "friendless wonder(s) living in mom's basement" don't raise $20 million dollars in one quarter."

No? There are entire cottage industries devoted to this demographic... The Sci-fi channel, The World of Warcraft, Axe Body Spray... mom's discover card seems to buy a lot of acne cream, Star Trek figurines, and Ron Paul donations...

"I, a GenX engineer, give neither my support nor my money lightly. Ron Paul is the only candidate talking about real issues with whom I agree."

So you're an engineer huh? Is that Sanitation or Custodial? Or maybe you're a "Petroleum Distribution Engineer" over at the "Pump n' Go."
James C said:
"Ronulans", "Paulistas", "Paultards", etc. it is getting old. Such childish names are usually hurled by those after they've lost a debate, not before. Be that as it may, 10% is a legitimate showing in a majority evangelical state. A bunch of "friendless wonder(s) living in mom's basement" don't raise $20 million dollars in one quarter. I, a GenX engineer, give neither my support nor my money lightly. Ron Paul is the only candidate talking about real issues with whom I agree.


Go vote for Rudy or Mike. Beat the drum of war or the Bible ,it matters not while the dollar implodes.
Spinoza said:
"Or us Ronulans who have jobs, work hard, and love our candidate will decide that it is more important to take an active role in our future, by watching the debates, and voting."

Oh, so does your mother pay you to eat cheetos and spam message boards in her basement?
Danny said:
Or us Ronulans who have jobs, work hard, and love our candidate will decide that it is more important to take an active role in our future, by watching the debates, and voting.

Sorry, this whole marginalizing of Ron Paul supporters is just absurd. In fact, its getting quite old. I guess that whole $20m came out of Mommy's and Daddy's pockets? I guess not.
Spinoza said:
"Saturday night -- when Facebook's under-30 demo presumably has better things to do..."

Advantage Ronulans... because I suspect that one of the advantages of being a mouth-breathing, friendless wonder living in mom's basement is that it leaves you with enough spare time to participate in pointless "Facebook Debates."

So I'm sure that the Ron Paul Revolution will be able to bombard the debate with questions about "what REALLY happened on 9/11," how Dr. Paul plans to address the CIA's secret program to read our thoughts through the radio transmitters in our filling, and how returning to Bretton Wood is an economic panacea... etc, etc etc...

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