eBay Blows Fee Changes, Should Have Cut Prices

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According to many eBay sellers, the company just enacted a stealth price increase. Some sellers will get volume discounts, but, for many, the listing fee cuts are going to be more than offset by the final-value fee increases. A price increase is the last thing eBay needs right now: What the company should have done is offer a large, across the board price cut.

eBay's fee moves suggest that it is still trying to have its cake and eat it, too--and that it doesn't understand how much the competitive landscape has changed in the past five years. eBay used to be the only game in town.  Now, buyers and sellers have many other options, including:
  • Amazon
  • Google
  • Store sites
  • Craigslist
eBay's fee changes appear to be based on Amazon's premium pricing model. In exchange for its high fees, however, Amazon does a lot of heavy lifting on quality control, marketing (product interface), and customer service. eBay is now asking its sellers to pay the same high Amazon prices, but without offering any of these back-end quality control services (instead it is asking its community to do this work).

For sellers that don't mind doing the work, meanwhile, there are Google keywords and free Craigslist listings. Back in the halcyon days, eBay could compete with free listings because free listing sites were filled with garbage listings and buyers couldn't find anything. Now, thanks to eBay's lousy site interface, eBay buyers can't find anything. So why should sellers pay premium prices for eBay, when they can do okay via Craigslist or their own sites, save money, and maintain complete control of their reputations?

What eBay should have done was offer at least a 25% across-the-board price cut--one that would kill margins and revenue in the short-term, but would also improve eBay's value proposition relative to the competition and eventually drive increased volume. The services eBay offers are worth something, and the high volume of buyers will still likely yield higher prices on eBay than anywhere else.  But one of eBay's core problems right now is that its paying customers--sellers--are pissed off and have many alternatives. And the thing they are most pissed off about is price.


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Becky said:
As both a longtime powerbuyer and as a recent powerseller on eBay, I am joining this boycott, for all the reasons already stated above. In addition, I'm upset that my 9 years worth of eBay feedback, numbering nearly 10,000, will be deleted from my record on eBay, with only the current year's feedback shown. I worked HARD for that feedback, mostly as a buyer. Basically, I purchased much of that feedback and I owned it, but now it's being taken away from me. I feel that I played by the rules, was a loyal customer, and something that I EARNED under those rules is being taken away from me. I don't feel appreciated as a customer, because now I will be no different from a buyer that just signed up this year. And really, if all feedback becomes positive, it will be a meaningless number and just a waste of everyone's time. I enjoyed having sellers see my high feedback and know that I was a longtime, reliable, heavy buyer. I think it encouraged better service and interest from sellers. They were more likely to continue offering the kinds of things that I was looking for.

eBay doesn't seem to understand customer concerns on eBay. While retaliatory feedback is a serious problem on eBay, the answer is not to eliminate feedback on customers, but to create other, better ways for customers to safely leave specific feedback anonymously without having to first leave positive feedback. My pet peeve is poor packing and breakage, which was not addressed by the new star feedback mechanism. I have called and written to eBay customer service several dozen times on this issue, but have received only worthless responses. The bottom line is that sellers are not the only eBay users who feel unappreciated by this greedy corporate giant.
jay said:
When a Company like eBay arbitrarily decides to take the constitutional rights,
of expressing the opinion of their constituents
they are violating the very base of the US Constitution.
We need to have the freedom to express our opinions; we have the legal right to
defend ourselves; The new feedback policy violates the fundamental freedom
given to us to express ourselves, when only one individual has the unilateral right
to leave negative feedback, the seller is no longer entitled to voice that opinion,
in a clear violation of our constitutional rights to free speech
or the right to express ourselves.

eBay not only is increasing the fees by 67%
PayPal -an eBay Company- will also Freeze our accounts!

We need to remain eBay that we are in the United States
and not in Countries like North Korea, Iran, and others
where the freedom to give and take your opinion
is silenced by the dictatorship of the individuals running those countries.

We have no protection and I feel vulnerable,
eBay is denying us of our constitutional rights.

Jay
Kat said:
Yes, many are pissed off about the way this went down and the "hidden" increase. It is disheartening to see the mislead media reporting this with ebay's spin of a "seller's decrease in fees---they asked we listened." Many news sources aren't getting the whole picture of the back-end increases; so, thank you for putting up these articles.

From the original article...
"And the thing they are most pissed off about is price."

Sellers are equally if not more upset about a two other key changes that ebay will be rolling out with their fee changes. First, sellers will no longer be able to leave buyers negative feedback. Buyers however can still leave Sellers negative feedback which will impact sellers in various ways via loss of discounts, lessened search visability, holds on listings, etc. Sellers detailed seller ratings (DSRs) are calculated using feedback scores. Sellers feel this is very one-sided and are worried about the outcome. Many already felt that the feedback process leaned heavily in favor of the buyer with the last change, the addition of the 5star DSRs because sellers were graded, among other things, on 'delivery time' which is not always in the sellers control (USPS delays, etc.. Secondly, they've added a forced payment requirement called "safe payment option" of either using paypal or a merchant account for sellers with listings in riskier categories (computers, cell phones, etc), or 5% or more dissatisfied customers, or if the seller has less than 100 feedback. At the same time stating that in some cases Paypal will hold payment funds until either the buyer has left positive feedback or 21 days have passed without a claim. Many sellers feel this is under-handed and puts them in a poor position to do business.

Users are also reporting on the boards the removal of the ability to combine user IDs -- which would have helped them with the feedback scoring as well as having trouble with the link allowing them to close their accounts entirely.
Another ebay seller said:
One major point missed in comparing Ebay's new pricing structure with Amazon's is;

Amazon's take includes payment processing, ebay's does not. Ebay sellers are still on their own for payment processing which adds an additional 4% to 5% onto the back end of each sale, which is largely paid to ebay's Paypal. This added cost puts ebay's new fee structure well above Amazon's value.
Former Ebay Seller said:
Henry, I used to sell on Ebay from 2003-2006. I had about 30,000 positive feedbacks and was a Platinum Powerseller, which is $25,000/month or more in sales.

For whatever reason, Ebay suspended me and said I was not adhering to the terms of service. I asked which vendor complained. They said none did, many in the Ebay community were complaining. I can guarantee it was sellers, the low price of my items, and my shipping fees that caused people to complain. I was crushed.

My life depended on my Ebay income. Then they went into my linked bank account and stole their remaining ebay fees. I couldnt do jack shit.

For months I didnt know what to do. I then launched my own website, sent out an email to all those ebay customers I had over the years, bought google adwords and now my business is back alive.

Before
$25,000 in revenue per month.
about $300/day in ebay fees. Operating profit of about $14,000 per month
Constant fear and stress of knowing Ebay can delete me for any reason at anytime. Customers can destroy your rep whenever they feel like it.

Now. My own website after 1 year.
About $8,000 in revenue per month
about $30 /day in ads. Operating profit of about $7000/month. I control my own livlihood and customers are more friendly.
My interface sucks. I will redesign my website and get better pictures. I'm projecting $10,000 profit month in 2008 and will surpass my Ebay profits in 2009.

Will I go back to ebay? Only to drive traffic to my website. I wish I would have done so from 2003-2006

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