Is Warner's Seeqpod Lawsuit A Warning?
Warner Music Group's lawsuit against Seeqpod, the site that scours the Web for MP3s and lets you play them, has some Web thinkers confused.
But WMG's complaint, published by the Electronic Frontier Foundation's Fred von Lohmann, is pretty straightforward. The short version: WMG is suing Seeqpod because it's a site that scours the Web for MP3s and lets you play them. That is, Seeqpod can't claim that it's merely linking to sites with MP3s. It's caching the songs so users can listen to them on Seeqpod's player (which, as we said, is excellent).
Seeqpod has posted a sort-of defense on its blog, which says that it's really just a passive search engine. But to us it seems clear: The site is the equivalent of YouTube or any other site that hosts copyrighted material. And regardless of what the DMCA does or doesn't say, in the real world there's now a precedent for these sites, at least those with commercial aspirations: They either get sued by copyright holders, or settle with them. Frequently, both.
The only twist here: Normally, the site and the copyright holder start out negotiating, then move to a lawsuit when that doesn't work (see: Viacom v. YouTube, Universal Music v. MySpace, etc). And from what we understand, Seeqpod and WMG hadn't ever talked prior to the suit.
It's certainly possible that the two sides will end up with a deal. The basic template for these is that the startup gives the labels cash and/or equity, plus a rev share or per-stream payment. But the preemptive nature of the lawsuit gives us a hint that Warner is up to something else here. We're guessing that it wants to use Seeqpod as a warning to entrepreneurs and their investors: We're sick of letting startups flourish using our stuff, then settling with them once they've attracted market share and money -- we want them to come to us before they startup.
So our question to Seeqpod and its investors, who include the DOE's Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory: How's your legal fund? It looks like WMG wants to make an expensive example out of you.
But WMG's complaint, published by the Electronic Frontier Foundation's Fred von Lohmann, is pretty straightforward. The short version: WMG is suing Seeqpod because it's a site that scours the Web for MP3s and lets you play them. That is, Seeqpod can't claim that it's merely linking to sites with MP3s. It's caching the songs so users can listen to them on Seeqpod's player (which, as we said, is excellent).
Seeqpod has posted a sort-of defense on its blog, which says that it's really just a passive search engine. But to us it seems clear: The site is the equivalent of YouTube or any other site that hosts copyrighted material. And regardless of what the DMCA does or doesn't say, in the real world there's now a precedent for these sites, at least those with commercial aspirations: They either get sued by copyright holders, or settle with them. Frequently, both.
The only twist here: Normally, the site and the copyright holder start out negotiating, then move to a lawsuit when that doesn't work (see: Viacom v. YouTube, Universal Music v. MySpace, etc). And from what we understand, Seeqpod and WMG hadn't ever talked prior to the suit.
It's certainly possible that the two sides will end up with a deal. The basic template for these is that the startup gives the labels cash and/or equity, plus a rev share or per-stream payment. But the preemptive nature of the lawsuit gives us a hint that Warner is up to something else here. We're guessing that it wants to use Seeqpod as a warning to entrepreneurs and their investors: We're sick of letting startups flourish using our stuff, then settling with them once they've attracted market share and money -- we want them to come to us before they startup.
So our question to Seeqpod and its investors, who include the DOE's Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory: How's your legal fund? It looks like WMG wants to make an expensive example out of you.




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Just like Google or Microsoft's Live Search? Neither Google nor Microsoft ever asked me for permission to cache my "intellectual property".
Maybe I don't properly understand the definition of contributory infringement (I'm hardly a lawyer) but an embedded player and a playlist function seem to fit the bill. I believe it requires, in part, knowledge of the infringing activity. It goes without saying there is a lot of infringing stuff out there. So does Seeqpod need specific knowledge (difficult to know if a particular track is illegal or not...e.g. band and label websites give away all sorts of freebies) or general knowledge (easy to know since it can be safely assumed by a rational person that Seeqpod is indexing and streaming an (unknown) portion of the Internet's illegally posted music files)? I mean, the entire site is based upon the premise that people illegally post songs (that's where the breadth and depth come from) otherwise there would be very little content to index and a far worse user experience as a result.
Again, I'm no lawyer, but I expect some lawyerly types to ponder these questions in the upcoming weeks.
You are exactly right.
I have written about this and talked to people from Warner about it... I love Seeqpod, but the Warner's of the world have to wake up. Too bad artist don't benefit from the resulting equity deals. That's the untold story..