Ron Paul Crushed in Iowa

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No surprise, of course, but some vindication for our own Michael Learmonth, who caught hell's full fury earlier for observing the obvious--that Iowa would be the beginning of the end for the president of the web.

Meanwhile, Obama and Huckabee won.


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Greg said:
10 % when msm said he would get 5% trounced their projections. He will do much better in NH and his campaign and supporters are growing daily unlike the other annointed. If he ends up with only 20% nationally he would hold complete power over all other republican contenders. He could go independent and take virtually all his support with him ensuring republican defeat. Ron Paul has all the power in this contest.

roxi said:
Reagan lost in Iowa at 3%

Jonstin said:
All these comments prove that Ron Pauls supporters are far more in touch with reality than when Hank Blodget stuck a $1000 price target on AMZN or called Ron Pauls supporters out of touch with reality.

Now, go eat another sandwich, Hank. And leave some for Joel.

Saul Tanner said:
Crushed?

The only "crushing" I've seen is the type that isn't working; intense media blackout, intentional mis-reporting or attempted obsfucation of the message.

Keep crushing... because we keep growing!

Aaron B. said:
I am in Nevada and I want to let you know that Ron Paul is airing a lot of radio ads on classic rock radio. His main thing seems to be "no taxes" which is gonna bring in a lot of votes out here, because this is where people come to incorporate and do business to avoid paying state taxes, which we don't have here. So I think Paul is very much in this thing as he is advertising way ahead of our caucus. I am actually a registered democrat but I am thinking about switching parties and joining the RP revolution. Keep up the good work RP supporters!

knappz said:
Crushed? In a state that has G.W. Bush at a 70% approval rating. Normal people consider a 10% showing in Iowa as a WIN.

Alexia said:
I wanted to do better, but since we didn't I made about 50 phone calls today to support the good doctor.

It isn't over until he says it is over.

I want my freedoms back, dammit.

marques said:
Do you say this stuff just to piss us off and get more comments??? loser

Nicholas Adams said:
Joel:

You remarkably said the following:
"1) Guliani got "crushed" in Iowa because he skipped Iowa to focus on the bigger states (florida, california, etc) that moved their primaries up this year. Ron Paul spent about ten times the amount of time and money on iowa than guliani did"

Not true. Paul has spent much more time and money on NH and Giuliani, while he didn't personally show up, spent plenty of money there he had spent close to $3 million there by mid-November. Last time I checked, Paul didn't spend $30 million in Iowa.

"2) While 10% is repectable, the early primaries are generally a winner take all proposition. Or at least, the top three take all. It's more of a business competition than a track meet...there are no points for coming in 4th."

Actually if by points you mean delegates, there are actually 2 points for coming in 4th this year.

"3) I'm actually surprised that Paul got 10%, but it's definitely not what he was hoping for. Mark my words, he'll be out of the race after the South Carolina primary"

Well, given that everyone hopes to win, then no candidate other than Huckabee go what he was hoping for. I'll be marking none of your words as they seem to be ill-informed.

Craig said:
Crushed? Huh? He finished 3 percentage points behind John McCain, who the media is calling the big winner because Romney came in second.

Ron Paul has more cash and more volunteers than anyone else on the Republican side, and he's still standing.

This is going to be a 50-state fight, and no one's in better shape than Ron Paul to take it nationwide.

On to Wyoming! On to New Hampshire! On to Michigan! and Nevada! and South Carolina! and Florida! and Maine!

Dianne said:
At 10%, Dr. Paul’s showing in Iowa is very respectable. He has delivered his message steadfastly, without compromising his standards. He has planned and executing his campaign with fiscal responsibility. There are more ways of winning than “winning at any cost”.

Richard Brodie said:
Besides Huckabee and Romney, Ron Paul was the only Republican candidate to win an entire county. The name of that county is Jefferson, appropriately enough, since Paul has been called the Thomas Jefferson of our time. Also of note is the fact that in five other counties, Osceola, Pocahontas, Van Buren, Mitchell, and Davis, Paul got more votes than Romney.

If this contest had been held a few weeks ago when Paul was at 2%, Romney would have gotten more than twelve times as many votes, instead of only getting somewhat more than twice as many. Elections are often compared to horse races, and it is thrilling to see a certain dark horse closing in this fast on the front runners, as we get close to the finish line!

Josh said:
Whaaaaaat? Somebody take this guy's license to blog, he's out of his mind. For Ron Paul to get 10% in Iowa is amazing, he's a candidate for eliminating federal subsidies campaigning in a state that survives and thrives on federal corn subsidies and you call 10% crushed??? LMAO If you look at the stats on votes per his visit to the state, he came in second behind Huck. He actually took a whole county, the only candidate besides Huck and Romney to do so, two of the guys who were supposed to do well there. If anyone was crushed it was Romney, who's spent a king's ransom there, and Giuliani.

Joel said:
Let me clear a few things up, bringing a political junkie perspective to a business blog...

1) Guliani got "crushed" in Iowa because he skipped Iowa to focus on the bigger states (florida, california, etc) that moved their primaries up this year. Ron Paul spent about ten times the amount of time and money on iowa than guliani did

2) While 10% is repectable, the early primaries are generally a winner take all proposition. Or at least, the top three take all. It's more of a business competition than a track meet...there are no points for coming in 4th.

3) I'm actually surprised that Paul got 10%, but it's definitely not what he was hoping for. Mark my words, he'll be out of the race after the South Carolina primary

Tracy said:
I say Ron Paul did very well. 36% better than anyone thought, coming in at 10%! And from what I hear, the Ron Paul Revolution is still growing.

But, I can tell the author of this article doesn't really like Ron Paul. Remember folks, the writer of this article isn't a journalist. If he was, he wouldn't write bias opinions and argue with responders. This is more of a tabloid, and no one should waste their time with that kind of "news."

It can't be defined as "crushed" when we exceeded our own expectations for this state. No, not crushed... elated!

Henry Blodget said:
Case in point.

Jonstin said:
When a stock is suppposed to report 3 cents, but reports 10 cents; would you say it was 'crushed'?

Not unless your main goal is to prove to anyone that you are so smart & so right.

Well done. You are so smart & so right, as usual.

Now, go eat a sandwich, hatfucker.


Henry Blodget said:
If 10% was an astounding victory, he needs to talk some sense into his supporters, who merely sound out of touch with reality.

Our point on site has been to note that status as "president of the web," which Paul is, doesn't translate to real world. It certainly seems true this time, too.

Duncan Riley said:
10% crushed? WTF? 10% in a state where the majority of GOP voters are heavy god botherers this is a solid result. If Paul can do 10% in Iowa, he's a good chance of mid teens, early 20s in New England/ NY and the West, although he doesn't stand a chance in the South, except maybe his home state Texas. He won't win, but he's going to go remarkably well, and this might drive him to run as a independent.

James Thomas said:
wtf is this doing on alley insider?

Nicholas Adams said:
Crushed? Surely you jest? Henry, Henry, Henry, 10% in Iowa for Ron Paul was a victory. Let's not forget that this is the state that saw Mr. Clinton getting 3% of the vote in the caucuses the year he WON and that the year George HW Bush won he got spanked by Bob Dole and Pat Robertson! Iowa is a notoriously "vote your religion not the issues" state, and Paul doesn't wear his religion on his sleeve. Huckajesus was going to be the obvious winner, Romney next because at least he seems religious even if its not the right religion, Thompson next because all the old religious types like his TV show, and McCain next because they can at least recognize him. Your assessment of "crushed" shows how much disdain you have for Paul and his supporters, but it doesn't reflect any sort of nuanced understanding of what's actually going on. This is further supported by the fact that you decided to write an article dedicated to how Paul was "crushed". Please, afford us the opportunity to know your prognostications for the upcoming primaries.

Mike M said:
Ron Paul was not crushed, the media owes him more coverage!

Peter Kafka said:
10% is much stronger than SAI political analysts had projected for Mr. Paul. Specifically because that's the highest he had polled prior to tonight, and our thesis was that the polls would overestimate his real-world support. Will the Ron Paul blimp be docking on the South Lawn anytime soon? No. But "crushed" awfully strong.

L.Step said:
Considering that a few months back Paul was simply unheard of, and then rose to 2% in polls, and then made it to 10% in a real vote, doing better that Guiliani ... hey, not bad at all! I'm looking forward to February. In any case, listening (for the first and last time) to Edwards, I nearly threw up. The tort-lawyer with the $400 haircut pretending that he knows all about what "America Needs" -- and promising to provide all that it ever might need. God, I can't stand these power-mad cynics posturing in front of a bank of microphones saying that they "care about us" -- all this usually with their wife and kids being propped up as signs of their "fidelity" and love. Crap.

Henry Blodget said:
That is true--Paul gets almost no coverage. I had to read three articles on two different MSM sites before confirming that he got crushed.

Tom deSabla said:
10 percent is not crushed.

10 percent with no mainstream media coverage is impressive. Huck has been all over the front pages here in Washington for weeks. No Paul on the front pages, even on Dec. 16th.

Frankly, I had no idea that anywhere near 10 percent of Iowans were into the kooky, fringe ideas of Ron Paul.

That alone tells you that libertarian ideas are underreported in general.

Gary Danelishen said:
-it was almost a three way tie for 3rd
(pretty good for a lack of media coverage for Paul)

-perhaps it was really a four way tie for 3rd. (Giuliani was surprisingly low)
- Assuming Thompson, McCain, Paul, & Giuliani each had roughly 10%
Then it is conceivable that 6% of Giuliani's supports split to support Thompson and McCain to boost their numbers up to around 13%

Now,

The negative attack adds between the leaders can tear each other down leaving Paul unmolested.

Wyoming on 01/05/2008 may be a good showing for Rep. Ron Paul (although probably little media coverage)
New Hampshire, with it's libertarian leanings, may be really big for Paul.
Also, I suspect that Nevada on the 19th will be good for Paul especially if N.H. is big on the 8th.

Let's hope that the money raised by Rep. Paul can be put to good use in the lead up to the 5th of February.

Lastly,
Paul's fund raising has been increasing at an exponential rate and far surpasses Huckabee.
Slow and steady wins the race, and if Paul is picking up speed then all the better.
I still remain optimistic for the Paul candidacy.

Henry Blodget said:
Yes, as I recall, Howard Dean managed to finish third, two full spots above Dr. P.

Michael Learmonth said:
Ron Paul was crushed, but not as badly as Rudy Giuliani, and I have to concede that with 10% of the caucus vote, he more than exceeded my limited expectations.

As for those who say he's not another Howard Dean: Ron Paul would give his eye teeth to be the next Howard Dean. At this rate, he won't come close.


Crushed? Double Digits is alot better than anyone expected him to do just a few weeks ago. What about Rudy, is his campaign over now? Obviously not. Only a biased and ignorant person would think Iowa and its 7 electoral votes decides anything. It will be fun to watch you eat crow when Ron Paul does well in NH and wins South Carolina.

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